you are so right matt! the spawn is the one chance you have to identify the male bass. i like to keep a few big males in to hopefully enhance the genetic pool. but the dink males have to go. and i only care about a few fish spawning. the more i can interrupt, the less small fish i'll have to worry about practicing "selective harvest" on later. as a manager, it is so important to be able to accurately diagnose which fish have the most trophy potential. and believe it or not the best way to do this in my book is to be able to to see the big picture. you have to look beyond the obvious. in considering which fish need to stay and which fish need to go, i rarely consider the actual size of the fish, unless of course it's one that's already grown to be large. but rather what i consider is the apparent overall health of the fish in question and it's apparent growth rate - i.e. how fast it seems to be growing. it is hard to get rid of 3, 4, and even 5 pound fish. but if those fish cannot show me consistent growth over an adequate trial period, they have to go. in short, i'll keep what appears to be a young, super healthy, fast growing 2 pounder over an average looking 4 pounder. in order to get very big, fish have to be able to make the most of every growing season available to them. and they do most of their growing by far when they are younger. to illustrate, we'll use the fish above. yes, she's a beauty. yes, i've been able to reverse her fortune dramatically with some decent management. but the truth is, judging from her "before" picture, her best growth years were at least partially, if not mostly wasted. had she been able to live up to her potential, i have no doubt that she would be a teener right now. i have some fish coming up behind her that if everything goes according to plan, might weigh at least a pound more than she does now when they are a year younger. we'll keep our fingers crossed. i'm still very new to this and very green at this management stuff. who knows what i'll learn in another year? :-?