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Adjusting meds is a pain alright as I well know i am about 90% through my latest until the longterm persripcription people change what they will cover again. That happens about twice a year. You get used to all the pill sizes and colors so you don't miss something and then then swith you. I missed one med for two days until the top of my head started blowing off or so it seemed. Ahaa I said, I missed something, sharp as a razor at times I am, so I know how much fun it is. Our bodies also over time build up resistences to different drugs so the doses may have to be increased or we may have to switch to a different drug to maitain the same level of control. Oh, and that new drug I had been switched to was the same type you are talking about as they also have a two fold effect of also helping control neurologic pain like mine. So I literally feel your pain as I have walked in your shoes. "And this too will pass" Avid all in time.

That was because there is no such thing as a dud. Just a round that has not gone BOOM yet. I understand because during basic training on the anti-tank range the LAW I was to fire mis-fired and they cleared the range with only the range master and me left. I know how they felt.

Unfortunately, in this modern day, SP society where children use cell phones in class to text answers to each other and when schools try to stop it the ACLU sues for violating the kids' rights. When a judge rules that a political candidate has the right to not tell the truth in political adds as happened during the last elections and a high ranking politician stuffs his pants with secret documents stealing them with only a hand slap for it. Why should we wonder when others also practice such the end justifies the means methods as those in the highest law enforcement offices in the land have. After all nothing was really done to them and everyone else is doing it right? :'(

Welcome to the forum.

I use them Both and sometimes I only use one on the front or rear depending on what I am trying to accomplish.

This topic was brought up on the Israeli forum I am on and there some of our Canadian members claimed the uniforms were actually Canadian military. Maybe they were French Canadans I don't know? ;D

Let's get back to talking about fishing!

The intimidation of moderate Muslims in the U.S. Erick Stakelbeck at Hot Air reports on the continuing persecution of Jamal Miftah, a Muslim in Tulsa, who has been called "un-Islamic" by the imam of a U.S. mosque for daring to condemn Osama bin Laden. "It was not an express threat," says Miftah of what mosque leaders were saying about him, "but it is an implied message to the others: that he isn't Islamic, you kill him, you go to heaven." The Al-Salaam Mosque in Tulsa, which kicked out Miftah, said they would take him back if he apologizes for the op-ed he wrote against bin Laden -- although now they say they only kicked him out because he was too loud during Islamic services. Sure. You'd think they'd put up with the inconvenience of his loud voice considering the fact that he was articulating the moderation that we're constantly told that they all believe in, wouldn't they? After all, Muslim leaders complain that moderate Muslims get no attention from the media -- surely they would all want to stand behind Jamal Miftah, wouldn't they? Wouldn't they? http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/16/jamal-miftah-a-moderate-muslims-plight/ http://jewsandmuslims.tribe.net/thread/05d5ad3c-0442-490c-ab24-cd8912683eaafor the op-ed he wrote against bin Laden.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ae2d5d24-badd-11db-bbf3-0000779e2340.html Iran on course for nuclear bomb, EU told By Daniel Dombey and Fidelius Schmid in Brussels Iran will be able to develop enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb and there is little that can be done to prevent it, an internal European Union document has concluded. In an admission of the international community's failure to hold back Iran's nuclear ambitions, the document compiled by the staff of Javier Solana, EU foreign policy chief says the atomic programme has been delayed only by technical limitations rather than diplomatic pressure. Attempts to engage the Iranian administration in a negotiating process have not so far succeeded, it states. The downbeat conclusions of the reflection paper seen by the Financial Times are certain to be seized on by advocates of military action, who fear that Iran will be able to produce enough fissile material for a bomb over the next two to three years. Tehran insists its purposes are purely peaceful. At some stage we must expect that Iran will acquire the capacity to enrich uranium on the scale required for a weapons programme, says the paper, dated February 7 and circulated to the EU's 27 national governments ahead of a foreign ministers meeting yesterday. In practice, the Iranians have pursued their programme at their own pace, the limiting factor being technical difficulties rather than resolutions by the UN or the International Atomic Energy Agency. The problems with Iran will not be resolved through economic sanctions alone.

Where do you stop? The President said he'll do anything in his power necessary to protect our troops. I would guess attacking Austria is next. That country knew full well that an Austrian guns producer, Steyr-Mannlicher, was going to sell rifles to Iran, a country not known for gun collectors or having a strong game hunting industry, it's safe to assume those rifles would be used to kill someone. Since we're drawing lines between dots so liberally, we can draw the line from the insurgents rifle to the Iranian goverment to Steyr-Mannlicher in Austria at the OK of the Austrian goverment. Nuke em all I guess. : Did you read the UK report on the rifles as sold to the Iranian government? It is for them to explain how they ended up in Iraq and punish those responsible although we all know they will not since they are the same people that seized our embassy in Iran and held them hostage for so long in violation to International Law. Personally, I do not see "nuke um all" as a viable option but that may at some point be the only remaining option their Fanatical Islamic Religious Rulers leave us. If Iran struck Israel first with nukes, would you say the USA should counter the strike in kind onto Iranian soil if Israel were unable to respond directly itself cart7?

This is a report out of the UK that directly relates to the threat that Iran is posing to our soldiers and to the death of some already despite denials from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad this very week. This post is so you are informed of the latest news not widely reported by mainstream american news. It speaks for itself so this is my only comments. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/13/wiran13.xml Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent Last Updated: 7:05pm GMT 13/02/2007 Audio: Revelation makes US action against Iran more likely, says Thomas Harding Austrian sniper rifles that were exported to Iran have been discovered in the hands of Iraqi terrorists, The Daily Telegraph has learned. More than 100 of the.50 calibre weapons, capable of penetrating body armour, have been discovered by American troops during raids. The guns were part of a shipment of 800 rifles that the Austrian company, Steyr-Mannlicher, exported legally to Iran last year. The sale was condemned in Washington and London because officials were worried that the weapons would be used by insurgents against British and American troops. Within 45 days of the first HS50 Steyr Mannlicher rifles arriving in Iran, an American officer in an armoured vehicle was shot dead by an Iraqi insurgent using the weapon. Over the last six months American forces have found small caches of the £10,000 rifles but in the last 24 hours a raid in Baghdad brought the total to more than 100, US defence sources reported. The find is the latest in a series of discoveries that indicate that Teheran is providing support to Iraq's Shia insurgents. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, yesterday denied that Iran had supplied weapons to Iraqi insurgents. But on Sunday US officials in Baghdad displayed a range of weapons they claimed had originated in Iran. They said 170 American and British soldiers had been killed by such weapons. The discovery of the sniper rifles will further encourage those in Washington who want to see Iran's uranium-enriching facilities destroyed before a nuclear weapon is produced. The Foreign Office expressed "serious concerns" over the sale of the rifles last year and Britain protested to the Austrian government. A Foreign Office spokesman said last night: "Although we did make our worries known the sale unfortunately went ahead and now the potential that these weapons could fall into the wrong hands appears to have happened." The rifle can pierce all body armour from up to a mile and penetrate armoured Humvee troop carriers. It is highly accurate and fires a round called an armour piercing incendiary, a bullet that the Iranians manufacture. The National Iranian Police Organisation bought the rifles allegedly to use them against drug smugglers in an £8 million order placed with Steyr in 2005. The company was given permission to export them by the Austrian government, which is not a Nato member.

I have tried to make my explanations as detailed and complete as possible in a compacted manner so if anyone wants to understand the situation better then educate yourself firsthand rather than relying on the media or what I or anyone else says because there is no substitute for first had study. Therefore, I am joining you RW, as this is also my last post on this subject. I pray for Peace and I am ready for War .

This thread (Chances of US and Iranian conflict?) was started in relation to Iran and one can not address that subject without addressing fundamental Islam as the country is ruled my Fanatic Islamic Religious Mullas and Imams that have total veto over all other forms of government. In Iran Islamic Law Rules, Period. Excuse me but I have read the Bible from cover to cover and plus attended a Bible College and nowhere that I know of does it call for stoning your children for disobedience. Please if you are going to refer to a religions teachings quote them from text accurately as I did or you are falsely accusing people of things. Disagreement is fine but let us at least be honest and as accurate as possible in our discourse. What you describe as not being reasonable is the basis of the two faiths Christianity and Islam. If you do not believe the doctrinal base of the faiths may I ask what the purpose of calling yourself a Christian or Muslim believer in Islam is other than just playing lip service. You can pick and choose different parts of different religions without espousing belief or calling one's self a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, etc.. It would seem rather hypocritical to call yourself a believer in a faith that you in fact do not believe in. You said, "This is about Iran--how Iran has threatened allied countries and their pursuance of nuclear arms contradicting international law. Leave the debate about the other stuff out unless it actually is relevant." The fact that Iran is ruled by Islamic Religious Leaders that are over the elected leaders is directly relevant. That fact also makes those Islamic Leaders Religious beliefs directly relevant to the issue as they rule in accordance to Islamic Religious Law. These Islamic Rulers are also the ones making the decisions to send Iranian Revolutionary Guard soldiers into Iraq along with, weapons, specialized roadside munitions, and training terrorist insurgent forces inside Iraq. It seems to me you are the one that seems confused as to the true issues involved. 02/13/2007 Austrian sniper rifles that were exported to Iran have been discovered in the hands of Iraqi terrorists, The Daily Telegraph has learned. More than 100 of the.50 calibre weapons, capable of penetrating body armour, have been discovered by American troops during raids.The guns were part of a shipment of 800 rifles that the Austrian company, Steyr-Mannlicher, exported legally to Iran last year.The sale was condemned in Washington and London because officials were worried that the weapons would be used by insurgents against British and American troops. Within 45 days of the first HS50 Steyr Mannlicher rifles arriving in Iran, an American officer in an armoured vehicle was shot dead by an Iraqi insurgent using the weapon. Over the last six months American forces have found small caches of the £10,000 rifles but in the last 24 hours a raid in Baghdad brought the total to more than 100, US defence sources reported. They said 170 American and British soldiers had been killed by such weapons. The discovery of the sniper rifles will further encourage those in Washington who want to see Iran's uranium-enriching facilities destroyed before a nuclear weapon is produced. The Foreign Office expressed "serious concerns" over the sale of the rifles last year and Britain protested to the Austrian government. A Foreign Office spokesman said last night: "Although we did make our worries known the sale unfortunately went ahead and now the potential that these weapons could fall into the wrong hands appears to have happened." The rifle can pierce all body armour from up to a mile and penetrate armoured Humvee troop carriers. It is highly accurate and fires a round called an armour piercing incendiary, a bullet that the Iranians manufacture. The National Iranian Police Organisation bought the rifles allegedly to use them against drug smugglers in an £8 million order placed with Steyr in 2005. The company was given permission to export them by the Austrian government, which is not a Nato member.

I understand your point and agree there are peaceful Muslims as you say. As in Christianity, there are branches of belief in any religion some hold to the literal writings of the founders of the religion while others take a more liberal view. That I stated in earlier posts. Cart7 said quote I'm sure they're just as afraid of the extremists as anyone else is. When I asked why these moderate Muslims do not vocally voice their condemnation of the radical Islamist Terror groups. If fear is the reason then these moderate Muslims are failing to defend Islam against apostasy that is the worst thing that can be done according to their own religion's writings. Any writings are open to interpretation depending on if one wants to follow them literally or only figuratively. Chitwnbass ask your Muslim friends about the principle of Nasikh in Islam. Whatever Verse do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?" Surah 2:106 In laymen's terms, this verse allows any previous verse or revelation to be superseded or negated by a latter one or in other words, Muhammad said Allah changed his mind so Muslims are to follow the latter revelation. That is the cause of much of the confusion you refer to in Islam as to which verses different Muslims choose to follow. The Verses change meanings from Muhammad' first writings in the Quran to the last or later year writings. Maybe I can make it clearer by breaking it down more. Ordinary Muslims: They are Muslims because of their culture and tradition rather than because of strong religious beliefs. Committed Muslims: They are making great efforts to live according to Islam. Orthodox Muslims: a subset of committed Muslims. Not only do orthodox Muslims want to follow the requirements of Islam, but they also want to do it in the same way as Muhammad did it in the seventh century. Fanatic Muslims: These committed Muslims put their words and beliefs into actions. In the early writings of Muhammad Jihad was meant for internal change and betterment. You see Muhammad started his writing in Mecca. While their Islam was in its early years and weak and Muhammad's followers were persecuted so he went to Medina. Media was home to the largest Jewish community in Arabia at that time. Muhammad tried to convert the large Jewish community. He even commanded his followers to turn toward Jerusalem when they prayed during this period. However, the Jews rejected Muhammad's new religion on what they called unacceptable contradictions in the 7 percent of Old Testament text included in the Quran. It was after this that the writings of Muhammad changed to condemn the Jews stating that Allah cursed the Jewish people because of their transgressions Surah 5:78 changed from his earlier revelation where the Jews were Allah's chosen people in Surah 2:47. In 2000, the Islamic Assembly of North America published a booklet titled No for Normalization. In it is written and I quote: The Jews came and attacked this land and stole it, and this will not change the fact that this land is Muslim, and it will remain that way forever. If we are not able to liberate this land today from the Jews, this does not mean that we can give up. We have to work until the time comes, and then we will bring it back to the Islamic world. This mindset is because Muhammad taught that Muslims would fight the Jews until the day of Resurrection. Islamic ruled nations charge a tax to all non-Muslims to remain in their faiths. The tax is called Jizyah and is traditionally levied once a year. Do you think that only went on during ancient times? Wrong, because Christians in countries like Egypt are killed today if they refuse to pay the tax. Read about who Sayyid Quth is and about Signs Along the Road. Look up Dr. Salah Serea, Shokri Mostafa. Try reading The Missing Commitments (Al-Fareda Al-Gaaba) by Mohammad Abaed al-Salem. For the Christians on the forum, if you really want to read a book that speaks to today's times since people like Iran's President Ahmadinejad call's for the Twelfth Imam (Islamic Messiah) I would highly recommend Joel Richardson's book " AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiah". Pastor Reza F. Safa, former radical Muslim says about the book "This book is central to recognizing the fullfillment of Biblical End-Times prophecy in our day and understanding the role that Islam plays in it." Even if you are not a believer in Christianity or Islam it is frightening and compelling read that speaks a lot about what we see today happening in Iran. From the Quran I quote from Surah 9:5 "Kill the Mushrikun [unbelieverers] wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and evry ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as--Salat) [the five ritual prayers per day], and give Zakat [alms], then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." So as long as you as an unbeliever are willing to submit yourself under Islam you will be spared. You have heard similar words from Iranian and Muslim leaders from around the world dirrected at America and you its citizens. Again I quote the Quran to show you the truth of what Islam is at it's foundation as it speaks how Muslims are to treat all other religions. "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshiping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshiping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do." Surah 8:39 You can choose to believe whatever you wish but these are the things written in the Quran and the Western World must come to understand the motivation of the Middle Eastern Muslim Nations operating under Islamic rule and law like Iran that is ruled by Hardline fanatic Islamic Clerics that believe these things to the depths of their souls. Some day that fact will have to be faced!

There are extremists roaming around in the Ozark hills that are prepared to fight against OUR goverment if need be. Extremism? You bet. It comes in all forms, just the the Right to Lifers who think an abortion clinic doctor has the right to die for taking the life of an unborn. History is full of extremists who took a seed and ran with it the wrong way. You don't kill all the people in a psyche ward just because one was an axe murderer. You are getting a little carried away. If you are trying to insult me because you looked up that I live in the Ozarks then I would rather you try making a rational calm argument of your position. No one has said all Muslims are terrorists as you keep repeating. But Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda, and host of other major terrorist organizations are based upon Islam. Take Hezbollah for example, headed by Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah (the Secretary General of Hizbullah). Nasrallah is a devoted Muslim and has spent periods of his life studying at religious centres in Iraq. In the mid-1970s he moved to a ****e Hawza (Islamic Seminary) in the Iraqi city of Najaf to study Qura'anic divine sciences, completing the first stage of his studies in 1978 before being forced to leave by the Iraqi authorities.[1] Despite his ongoing commitment to Hezbollah, in 1989 Nasrallah resumed his efforts to become a religious jurisprudent by moving to the sacred Iranian city of Qom to further his studies. Nasrallah believes that Islam holds the solution to the problems of any society, once saying, With respect to us, briefly, Islam is not a simple religion including only praises and prayers, rather it is a divine message that was designed for humanity, and it can answer any question man might ask concerning his general and private life. Islam is a religion designed for a society that can revolt and build a state. The country of Iran is run by Islamic Imams that have total veto over all other governmental bodies. D.C. Imam supporting jihad terror and Islamic supremacism http://www.jihadwatch.org/ "The most glorious death is the death of the martyr," says Imam Musa's Myspace page. And also: His methodology draws heavily on the writings of Malcolm X, Maulana Mawdudi, Hasan al-Banna, Sayyid Qutb, Kalim Siddiqui, and Imam Khomeini. New members of the group are encouraged to individually familiarize themselves with the works of these political Islamic thinkers in addition to daily classes and lectures on classical Islamic studies, Arabic, hadith and Qur'an. Special emphasis is placed on personal development and growth based on the Qur'an and Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), as well as incorporating tightly knit family units within the overall community structure. The movement has spread across the US and is extremely popular among college students and African-American youth. Imam Musa has been regularly invited to speak at college campuses and Islamic events around the world. Critics have suggested that he promotes anti-Semitism in his speeches, which he claims are directed at Zionist supporters of Israel and not at Jewish people in general. During a rally in July 1999 Imam Musa displayed a cashier's check made out to "Hamas, Palestine," to protest the 1996 U.S. law which declared Hamas a terrorist organization. I keep hearing about all the peace loving Islamic believers. Can this Ozark Hillbilly ask a question? Since 9-11 where have they all been because I seen Muslims riot and kill innocent people over cartoons, threaten the Pope over a quotation they did not like, assassinate a film maker in the Netherlands, hold conferences denying the Holocaust, threaten to wipe Israel of the face of the world, and scream "Death to America". Where are all the moderate Imams and why are they not on TV and in the streets demanding these few as you claim stop. Why are they not calling the terrorists apostates damned of Allah for profaning Islam. Terrorists Imams claim the terrorists are following the true Islamic Faith through Militant Jihad against all Infidels. If that is a lie, then why does not Islam worldwide show the outrage they show over a Dutch cartoon? Why can't you get any Imams or major groups like CAIR (Council On American-Islamic Relations) to call those that commit terrorism, appostates that are in violation of Islamic Law?

Not every Muslim is a believer in the Islamic faith to the point that they follow militant Jihad, as there are degrees of faith for those in Islam just as in Christianity. Some Christians believe the fundamental teachings of the Christian faith as set forth in the Bible while others just go to a church on Sunday, some just play lip service to the faith, and the same is true for Islam. However, the point I have been trying to get through is the foundational principles of the religions. Over a year ago I did not know much of anything about Islam but because of the effect it is having worldwide and upon my country I decided I had to learn. So I Bought a Quran, Hadiths and as many books as I could find on the subject from many different viewpoints and started reading and cross-referencing. What I have learned has both shocked and horrified me. You can say you do not believe me but until you study for yourself you can only rely on what others say and not on personal knowledge. Again I will state what repeated authors and former terrorists state about the motivational indoctrination given fundamental believers recruited into Terror and that is that only through martyrdom for Islam is a believer guaranteed entry into Heaven according to Islamic teaching. Whither you believe that or not does not change the reality of the truth of it.

Please read my previous post. If you study the writings and teachings of the most respected scholars in the Middle East at the foundational institutions of Islam you will learn the fundational principles or pillars of Islam are not what you apparently believe they are. The difference between People who call themselves Christians and do as you say above is that they are not following the teachings or the example set by the the life Jesus lived while here on Earth. The Muslims that are commiting militant Jihad ("Terrorism") are in fact following both the teachings and the example that Muhammad set by the life he lived while here on Earth as set forth in the Hadith. So there is a significant difference. You can Read for yourself in the english translations of the Quran and Hadith.

You have not studied the Quran or the Hadith teachings about the life and example set by Muhammad if you believe the above because they are counter to the fundamental teachings of Islam. Hamas and Hezbollah are among us here in the USA now and with our open borders, no sophisticated delivery system is needed. Do you ever wonder how they get people so ready to kill themselves for Islam? It is because Islam is a religion of "works" whereby the only believers that are guaranteed entry into their understanding of heaven is if they die in defense of Islam as a martyr (read suicide bomber or soldier fighting the infidels). I would suggest you do some in depth study into the Middle Eastern Base Fundamentals of Islam and you will find the exact opposite of what you said above is true. Ask the D.C. Imam supporting jihad terror and Islamic supremacism "The most glorious death is the death of the martyr," says Imam Musa's Myspace page. Their goal is exactly as they say. Have you not heard people like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad say we western nations must covert to Islam? They are not making a joke as they mean to destroy our way of life just as he and others including many Islamic Imams proclaim. To understand this better I would suggest you read some of the excellent books available from different sources such as Dr. Mark A. Gabriel, and Rober Spencer. Mark A. Gabriel grew up as a Muslim in Egypt and earned a Ph.D. in Islamic history and culture from Al-Azhar University in Cairo. He is uniquely qualified to explain the teachings of the Quran, to analyze events related to Islam, and to articulate the motives of Islamic terrorists. Since 2002 he has authored Islam and Terrorism, Islam and the Jews, Jesus and Muhammad. In January 2006, he released his most recent book, titled Journey into the Mind of an Islamic Terrorist. Author of several books on Islam and its relationship to Christians, Jews, and Terrorism. Robert Spencer,http://www.jihadwatch.org/, author of books like "The Truth about Muhammad", and "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam. There is also another excelent book "Why I Left Jihad" by an Ex-Muslim Terrorist Walid Shoebat that might give you a whole different perspective from a man raised in Islam and a Palestinian Terrorist in the PLO until he could no longer stomach what he had become. See it through his eyes and then say to me Islam as taught in the Middle East by its highest most respected scholars is a Religion of Peace. Here is an old picture of a nuke designed for hand delivery. This would most likely be similar to what Iran would have smuggled into the USA and set off by a proxy group like Hamas. Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM), a Navy and Marine Corps project that was demonstrated as feasible in the mid-to-late 1960s. The package shown was intended to be used by UDT/Seal Special Forces, delivered into water by parachute along with a two man team, then floated to the target, set in place and armed by hand. Designed to attack a harbor or other strategic location that could be accessed from the sea. If you want to read first hand how the majority of Middle Eastern Muslims view non-Muslims then this is the scource: http://www.irandefence.net/

Since Iran almost weekly calls for wiping Israel of the face of the Earth and "Death to America" what do you see in the future? Especially once the radical Islamists that control that country get their hands on "The Bomb", do you think they mean what they say? Most people in America and Europe did not believe what Germany was saying through Hitler. You see I already believe we are in to the first opening years of WW III. The question is just like WW II, how many million will have to be slaughtered before the world will wake up and try to do something about it. Some of us students of history know that if it had not been for a few German scientists that made contact with the Allies because they did not want a madman with the atom bomb and were spirited out of Europe to the USA. Hitler would have developed the atom bomb rather than us and we might be speaking German today. At least those scientists understood you do not let madmen play with atom bombs. If only the UN understood that today there may never come a time we would need to go it alone. All it would take is one Hamas member coming across the Mexican border (already operational delivery system) to a city like the Houston area (that supplies close to 40% of Americas petrochemical output) with a suitcase nuclear bomb and the dead would be counted in the millions. Crazy? Yes, but you and I both know they would do it and claim no knowledge of what happened. They most likely would say the US Government nuked their own people for an excuse to attack them. Many in this present world and many supposed American leaders would believe it. So, what is the answer from your perspective if they continue as they are and get the Bomb? You know the United Nothings Nations will not put teeth in stopping them just like when they took bribes from Saddam. Me, I sure do not have the answer and I am glad that weight is not on my shoulders. I guess that is why God said in scripture to pray for your country's leaders because they are going to need a lot of wisdom (something they have not shown a lot of during my lifetime). Only history will tell what was done right or wrong because hindsight is always 20/20.

If any others would like to join me I want to start prayer support for any forum members or their family now in harms way in the service of our country. If you would like to add your name or a family member by name feel free to. Let us support our family here and those far away!

Tom, your post gave me an idea. For anyone that would like to maybe we could start some sort of prayer chain for any forum members or their relatives in harms way. I'll start a tread about it and see if others are interested.

I know only one guy that would do that. We called him affectionately stinky for a reason. He just might do that as on his 30th wedding anniversary the supervisor asked him if he wanted to work overtime that evening. He said ok and called his wife to tell her 30 minutes before he was to get off work to cancel the party because he had to work overtime. Now I do not know about you guys but there is no way on God's green Earth I would have what takes to do that. :o :oWould you????

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (February 8, 2007) -- According to a credible source, an employee of Anna Nicole Smith found her in her room in the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida. The employee pulled back a sheet and discovered that she appeared to have choked on her own vomit. The same source claims that Smith took what was referred to as a "children's sedative," and had "kept passing out" before her death. AccessHollywood.com has learned from this same source that one of the attending physicians at Memorial Regional Hospital was Dr. Randy Katz. When we contacted Dr. Katz, he acknowledged that he was indeed an attending physician, but Dr. Katz would not comment on any specifics related to his care of Smith. (CBS) HOLLYWOOD, Fla. On Friday, we might get some answers about what killed Anna Nicole Smith. The sudden death if the curvaceous beauty was not only stunning, but it's also the beginning of a battle over her baby and her fortune. Sources tell CBS 2's Scott Weinberger that investigators found illegal narcotics as well as prescription medications in Anna Nicole's Florida hotel room. Sources also tell CBS 2 that investigators removed eight bags of evidence from her hotel room. Her body is now at the Broward Co. Medical Examiner's Office. A toxicology report will determine if the drugs played a role in her death, and an autopsy is scheduled for this morning. Sources in Florida tell CBS 2's Tamsen Fadal that if Anna Nicole died of natural causes, the autopsy results could be released quickly. However, definitive test results could take weeks. Of course, Anna Nicole's tragedy evokes memories of her idol, Marilyn Monroe, who died from a drug overdose at age 36. Anna Nicole's last appearance on television was one month ago. She appeared with her husband, Howard K. Stern at a boxing match at the very same hotel where she was found unconscious -- the Seminole Hard Rock Casino in Hollywood, Fla. According to eyewitness Elizabeth Martinez, "We just see the ambulance. They pushed her in -- just shove her in really fast." Police said that Anna Nicole's bodyguard called the hotel operator to get help to her sixth floor room after a nurse traveling with the former Playboy Playmate and her husband found her unresponsive. Smith was rushed to a nearby hospital where doctors said she was dead on arrival. Seminole Police Chief Charlie Tiger said, "The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner." On Thursday, Medical Examiner Joshua Pepper said, "Sometimes the findings are very obvious at the time when the autopsy is done. Sometimes the finding is more subtle and requires additional microscopic and chemical examination." A Life In The Spotlight Most of Anna Nicole Smith's sensational life was spent in the spotlight. The busty Texas-born beauty was a topless dancer at strip club before she made the cover of Playboy magazine in 1992. She captivated readers with her Marilyn Monroe looks, and in 1993, she became Playboy's "Playmate of the Year." Anna Nicole was also signed a contract with Guess Jeans, appearing in TV commercials, billboards and magazine ads. In 1994, she married 89-year-old oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall. His death in 1995 sparked a feud over his fortune with Marshall's son. The California Supreme Court awarded $474 million to Smith, but it was later overturned. In May 2006, the U.S. Supreme Court revived her case, ruling that she deserved another day in court. In September, Smith's 20-year-old son Daniel died in his mother's hospital room in the Bahamas. A mixture of drugs was to blame. His death came just days after she gave birth to a daughter. There is still a question of who the father is. "I just feel horrible for Danielynn that her mom is not around. And Anna was a great mom. I don t care what you hear, she was a great mom," said Smith's lawyer, Ron Rale. "She went through a lot of heartache in her life and it was hard for her to deal with it," said Tal, who worked for Anna Nicole. Of course, the bigger question remains: What happened Thursday that left Anna Nicole Smith dead at the age of 39? The Latest News --Sources tell CBS 2 that drugs were found in Anna Nicole's hotel room -- both narcotics and prescription meds. --An autopsy is scheduled for today. --There's also an emergency paternity hearing scheduled in Los Angeles today. We still don't know who the father of her baby is and hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake.

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (February 8, 2007) -- According to a credible source, an employee of Anna Nicole Smith found her in her room in the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida. The employee pulled back a sheet and discovered that she appeared to have choked on her own vomit. The same source claims that Smith took what was referred to as a "children's sedative," and had "kept passing out" before her death. AccessHollywood.com has learned from this same source that one of the attending physicians at Memorial Regional Hospital was Dr. Randy Katz. When we contacted Dr. Katz, he acknowledged that he was indeed an attending physician, but Dr. Katz would not comment on any specifics related to his care of Smith. (CBS) HOLLYWOOD, Fla. On Friday, we might get some answers about what killed Anna Nicole Smith. The sudden death if the curvaceous beauty was not only stunning, but it's also the beginning of a battle over her baby and her fortune. Sources tell CBS 2's Scott Weinberger that investigators found illegal narcotics as well as prescription medications in Anna Nicole's Florida hotel room. Sources also tell CBS 2 that investigators removed eight bags of evidence from her hotel room. Her body is now at the Broward Co. Medical Examiner's Office. A toxicology report will determine if the drugs played a role in her death, and an autopsy is scheduled for this morning. Sources in Florida tell CBS 2's Tamsen Fadal that if Anna Nicole died of natural causes, the autopsy results could be released quickly. However, definitive test results could take weeks. Of course, Anna Nicole's tragedy evokes memories of her idol, Marilyn Monroe, who died from a drug overdose at age 36. Anna Nicole's last appearance on television was one month ago. She appeared with her husband, Howard K. Stern at a boxing match at the very same hotel where she was found unconscious -- the Seminole Hard Rock Casino in Hollywood, Fla. According to eyewitness Elizabeth Martinez, "We just see the ambulance. They pushed her in -- just shove her in really fast." Police said that Anna Nicole's bodyguard called the hotel operator to get help to her sixth floor room after a nurse traveling with the former Playboy Playmate and her husband found her unresponsive. Smith was rushed to a nearby hospital where doctors said she was dead on arrival. Seminole Police Chief Charlie Tiger said, "The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner." On Thursday, Medical Examiner Joshua Pepper said, "Sometimes the findings are very obvious at the time when the autopsy is done. Sometimes the finding is more subtle and requires additional microscopic and chemical examination." A Life In The Spotlight Most of Anna Nicole Smith's sensational life was spent in the spotlight. The busty Texas-born beauty was a topless dancer at strip club before she made the cover of Playboy magazine in 1992. She captivated readers with her Marilyn Monroe looks, and in 1993, she became Playboy's "Playmate of the Year." Anna Nicole was also signed a contract with Guess Jeans, appearing in TV commercials, billboards and magazine ads. In 1994, she married 89-year-old oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall. His death in 1995 sparked a feud over his fortune with Marshall's son. The California Supreme Court awarded $474 million to Smith, but it was later overturned. In May 2006, the U.S. Supreme Court revived her case, ruling that she deserved another day in court. In September, Smith's 20-year-old son Daniel died in his mother's hospital room in the Bahamas. A mixture of drugs was to blame. His death came just days after she gave birth to a daughter. There is still a question of who the father is. "I just feel horrible for Danielynn that her mom is not around. And Anna was a great mom. I don t care what you hear, she was a great mom," said Smith's lawyer, Ron Rale. "She went through a lot of heartache in her life and it was hard for her to deal with it," said Tal, who worked for Anna Nicole. Of course, the bigger question remains: What happened Thursday that left Anna Nicole Smith dead at the age of 39? The Latest News --Sources tell CBS 2 that drugs were found in Anna Nicole's hotel room -- both narcotics and prescription meds. --An autopsy is scheduled for today. --There's also an emergency paternity hearing scheduled in Los Angeles today. We still don't know who the father of her baby is and hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake.

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