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  1. I already know what happens tomorrow Biff...
  2. Nothing anecdotal about it. Fish "hearing" is a combination of what we consider ears and perception from the lateral line, there is no difference, they are both detecting vibration in the medium the organism lives in, just like us, ever feel the whip with the quad 15s thumping your chest before you actually hear it? pretty common around here. I think I hear some Fity... References 1. Bhandiwad, A. A. , Zeddies, D. G. , Raible, D. W. , Rubel, E. W. , and Sisneros, J. A. (2013). “ Auditory sensitivity of larval zebrafish (Danio rerio) measured using a behavioral prepulse inhibition assay,” J. Exp. Biol. 216, 3504–3513. 10.1242/jeb.087635 [PMC free article] [PubMed] [CrossRef] [Google Scholar] 2. Braun, C. B. , and Sand, O. (2013). “ Functional overlap and nonoverlap between lateral line and auditory systems,” in The Lateral Line System, edited by Coombs C., Bleckmann H., Fay R. R., and Popper A. N. ( Springer, New York: ), pp. 281–312. [Google Scholar] 3. Buwalda, R. J. 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  3. All fish can hear line moving through the water.
  4. From a manufacturing point of view, they are press molding balsa in the 3rd world, and have introduced plastic baits, which cuts cost, and speeds up production. From a sales point of view, most times the consumer can't see who is "eating" the margin when items go on sale. Most times it's the retailer, sometimes it's the manufacturer, and sometimes it's both (fishing distributors are leeches). In this case, my guess would be that they are pushing poor selling inventory. The sales at MSRP or constructed MSRP is what determines profitability (on the revenue side), not discounted sales. That's just on paper for regulatory and tax purposes.
  5. Most likely a houndfish.
  6. No all braid for me, as a matter of fact I go to it only on a couple of things, and only reluctantly.
  7. The SK Tour Grade in BG has earned a spot in my jig A box, not sexy (ha), but it gets the job done.
  8. I'm revving my Pflueger Trion to 6000 RPMs and see what happens later today...
  9. That's what I would do, 8-12 feet should do it, but with 10 or 12 lb mono instead of that other stuff.
  10. Nah, while most of my sporting goods equipment is fairly specific, stuff is just stuff, and it will never even get close to those things that are important to me.
  11. No this. "they're smart, especially when they're big, and know how to break you off or spit a hook."
  12. Maybe, maybe not. All else being equal, a shorter rod will be more sensitive, but even with rods of the same manufacturer and model, all else isn't usually equal.
  13. I always start on the low side and move up as necessary in all aspects of a rod, so shorter, less power, slower, and work each up as required. Most of my rods are shorter than 7'.
  14. Oh yeah, soft goods mark ups and sales are way higher than hard goods. One of my best bike customer was a women's gloves rep, and he rode (not well) several expensive bikes. Academy has been waffling somewhat after the buyout, they will fine, (or DSG will buy them). Who needs socks?...
  15. Stay safe and make good decisions down there. I think the wind will be bad, but the surge and flooding from it and the rain will cause the most damage. Hoping for the best outcome. One of my nieces is down at Disney doing an internship, and her mom is a mess already. The Tampa area has seen explosive growth in the last couple of decades, hope the planning and infrastructure is up to it.
  16. Tackle shops, surgical supply houses, amazon... I like hard plastic better for trailer hooks, I use a hole punch on plastic lids from coffee cans or nuts.
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