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One of the things I find mindboggling is fishing from a 50+ k boat , with several grand in rods and reels and trying to save a few pennies in fishing line ( the only thing connecting you and the fish ) and cheap hooks ( the only thing in direct contact with the fish ), absolutely ridiculous !

A couple cull fish from this past Saturday. Bluebird skies. Variable wind. Both of these fish were caught on jigs. The 6-8 was caught in 20ft of water and the 3-5 was in 10-12 feet. Cull # 1 22.5 inches 6lbs 8oz Cull # 2 18.75 inches 3lbs 5oz This was the best fish I caught on Monday. Overcast off and on light rain. Light wind. Caught this one and mots of the other 42 bass I caught this day on a crank bait. Cull # 3 19.5 inches 3lbs 12oz My top 5 are : 23, 22.5, 22, 19.5, 18.75 For a total of 105.75 inches

No offense, but I put a bit more time into this topic than just my trips to a store. Don't let the beard fool you. I agree that there are improvements that can be made to any system, assistance programs especially. All we can constructively do is continue to address the problems and unfortunately, HOPE, that someone at a higher pay grade makes the changes. While BR has a ton of members, anyone who has the ability is not coming on here to seek out ideas for welfare reform. Blowing off steam about an upsetting situation is understandable. I get hot under the collar. I want my complaints to be heard. Complaining to the people on a bass forum merely amounts to "biching" (yes, I know it's not spelled correctly LOL) and while it may feel good to get it off your chest, does nothing really for furthering any real change.

They're the best for a reason

Don't really have to say anything. Good luck in your recovery. True grit. :salute: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/15/20980647-grown-men-began-to-weep-wounded-soldier-awakens-in-hospital-to-make-salute-seen-around-the-world?lite

I totally agree with Francho. I pondered this topic yesterday and thought better of posting my opinion because I could have easily violated BR forum rules. I'm going to approach this topic from a different angle. The situation stems from a social problem mainly the family structure, many of the people in question have for generations been raised to live this way. Poor family life, maybe only one parent in the household barely making enough money to even pay rent. These people not only were raised to use the system, they were raised to fail in life. The second many of them were born they had 2 strikes against them. On the other hand, I'm sure many of the posters in this thread were raised with 2 parents, lived lives where there was always food to eat, warm clothes in the winter, parents stressed education and taught wholesome values, in other words raised to succeed in life, with little or no excuse for failure. Needless to say there are exceptions on both sides of the equation. People from all demographics fall into both of these groups, it isn't isolated to just one. Most of the forums I frequent with out any doubt in my mind would favor my position. I do realize that my view this subject on this forum will yield a high degree of scrutiny and disagreement. All that being said I don't condone the bilking any system.

I agree with this being a deplorable situation. What I don't really like is all the misconceptions being tossed around about people receiving food stamp benefits. In keeping with "calling a spade a spade," many of you dont know a thing about people receiving assistance. The "welfare stereotype" is a thing of the past, TRUST ME. You will always have the women with multiple fatherless children who can't seem to stay vertical long enough to get a job. But what you dont see is the MAJORITY of the people receiving the assistance HAVE JOBS. They pay taxes. They just simply don't make enough to completely feed their families or themselves. Sure, some of the folks would probably benefit from a money management class or ten but I dont know that it warrants dusting off the pillory. Should the people who offended and stole this food be punished? Absolutely. Should this be a reflection of the folks legitimately using the benefits they are eligible for? Absolutely not. I've talked about this very topic with quite a few people on this forum. I believe I have the personal experience to discuss this topic.

Want to hear God laugh,.....tell em your plan. I've found that my plan and Gods plan for me were two different things. Looking backing, I'm glad that he has a better plan than I do....wouldn't change too much

St Croixs customer service is 2nd to none. Not only do they make THE BEST RODS ON EARTH, they also stand by there product 100%.

I didn't see the jig video, I missed that one Then I re-watched the others again

That little sucker would not stop jumping around, and the bite was on so I didn't stop for too long. Thanks though. Oh, and all those were caught on a weightless green pumpkin stik-o worm (BPS version of senko)

Nope, better than I ever could have planned. Happy, healthy family, food on the table, shoes on my feet and a few big bass in the livewell on occasion.

This is the reason I put a trolling motor on my yak! I was out in the middle of a sizable lake and couldn't paddle fast enough to get in. Lightning struck the shore near me! I never was so terrified

I don't know anyone who's life is has turned out 'according to plan'. That's the beauty of life. You really don't know how things will end up. I've had ups and plenty of downs. take the good with the bad.

Cardinals one game away from a World Series berth. Lynn was a bit shaky at times, but at least the damage was minimal. Hope Kelly can shut down the Dodgers in game 5. Boston's pitchers hurled a gem tonight, and so did Verlander though he got the loss. Lots of great pitching duels this postseason.

Beer capitol because it's college town? We real Southeners leave that to the youngins. Ask Martin, this Redneck and that Pole can put down a bottle. Almost got me in a good amount of trouble with the wife, lol. I say that one of these days we need to have a huge get together somewhere for a day of fun and some fishing. But I have a feeling that one day wouldn't cut it.

I wish I could use one but the snapping turtles from the size of the 30" tall tire on my jeep to 48" diameter shells have me worried. These guys have some really bad force when it comes to jaw pressure. The 48" one has a human sized head. I did notice they sit on the Rocky bottom trying to blend in as a rock and wait for something to swim by. I know I didn't spot it when it grabbed my timber doodle coming out of the weeds. He got the merry go round ride of his life too. But in the end he took my lure with him anyway I lose. When I hooked the 48" snapper it stuck it's head up as my son said you have a log, I said that's a turtles head. I wasn't the first one to hook him there was plenty of yellow braid on the ground. The story I got is he lost to this turtle too. My point is me out there in a float tube? Call me bait...

J Franco you are a man of courage and conviction. I salute you my friend. As for characterizing poor folks taking advantage of a broken system as animals I completely agree with John. It is way over the top. Yes they were stealing. Yes there should be consequences. And yes it is very easy to get all self-righteous over something like this and completely ignore the corruption all around us.

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It's WFN, the World Fishing Network. Like martintheduck said, they show fishing 24 hours a day. One day it will be fly fishing, the next will be salt water fishing, during prime time at least. They show a pretty wide range of stuff. I watch it more than I watch any other channel. I have Verizon Fios, not sure what all providers carry it.

What sickens me is most of the dummies bought a bunch of meat and frozen goods and don't have the equipment at home to store it in. I can almost guarantee that most of the stuff they got will go in the trash

well yea it applies to everything! I'm a baseball player and learning from former pros and scouts helps a lot! Well by what you were saying before its going to be completely different for him.. But having an established relationship as he was your former helper will make the transition a little easier for him.. Not that the work will be easier but learning new things will come quicker if he's comfortable. This makes me wanna go take more classes and learn a trade!!

Definitely makes things go easier, when you can find someone that loves your line of work as much as you do. I never thought about it from a non trade perspective. However, I guess it does apply to other occupations as well. My last helper and I still keep in touch about work and life in general. Heck the Journeyman that trained me and I still talk weekly. We haven't worked together in 3 years now.That 20 year old (being my last helper) has more want to then any other helper I have ever had. Once things get started rolling with my buddy and my joint venture next year. Hes jumping ship from the company he is at now, and joining us. That poor electrical helper is about to have a whole new world opened up to him.

Ta da, I finally figured how to upload pics on the post above. Yay for the computer illiterate teenager.

Its something to cherish with out a doubt...He has a impressive resume in his field of work! and like you said from both sides of the spectrum.,, when they can see both sides and help you through tough times, well its awesome! I have a few people that help me every day and I can count on... I enjoy learning from them and they enjoy teaching someone who enjoys it as much as they do..

You ain't kidding. I have learned more from him then I ever thought possible. He was one of the best bosses I have ever worked for. He worked his way through engineering school as an electrician. Got his masters license before he graduated. He holds a master license in 16 states. He knows what its like from both sides of the spectrum. You are right I really can't describe it. He has helped me so much in learning to live the life I do.

That's great! Having someone in your life that can mentor you and be a true friend is something words can not describe. EVER

Just got a call from my original master electrician. He knows of two Shutdowns starting up the first week of January. He said he can get me onto one of those. Those two will be 9 weeks and 12 weeks respectively. He said he will guide me and help me get my new career path going. Including helping me and my pipe fitter get our company started up later in 2014. I worked under him from apprentice until Journeyman. He sold his business right after I got my card. He has been my mentor for the last 8 years. Every move i have made since i left their, he has advised me with. He has been a close family friend for the last 43 years. The man owned and started a contracting company and engineering company that was pulling in millions of dollars a year profit. I feel as if I'm good hands in this endeavour.

x2. Pics would help.

well im still trying to wrap my head around the octo rig!!! im picturing it in my head but not really lol

I don't qualify for one. I am not worked up, just calling it what it is, as it is. If our founders hadn't done the same, we'd still be kneeling to a king. and I don't have Netflix, as I don't have a need for it, and I like fishing tackle too much, LOL.

when you dont work and live off the dole, there arent much taxes being paid.

Went fishing for about an hour after work again and seen the biggest school of big bass ive ever seen in person. Must have been like 12-15 together between 2-4lbs. I tossed a worm out before they came by schooled like 6 feet in front of me, so I reeled in real quick to see if I could get my worm near them in time and got a 19" of the rear of the pack to drop off and dive for it... and if that wasnt cool enough a snakehead about equal weight was following the school or hiding below and was about to tear up my bass as I was fighting it! Would have been mad if the s.h. got it, but was enough excitement for a fishernerd for the day!

This must be a Southern thing, but we are all pretty messed up, lol. Oh it's soo funny reading this thread, especially after a few Jack Daniels, lol.

Grizz, I see you hanging out with us a lot more. Cool! Your more than welcome.

Its hard work, but I can make you wealthy. When you get the time hit me up. We are gonna be running 6in rigid conduit. I believe it weighs around 160 lbs per 10 foot section. 9 pipes running 200 ft before reducing down or landing in their respective locations. Lots of smaller pipe, and tons of big wire and little wire to pull and terminate. Working on some silos and towers that are 200 feet up too. I'm as giddy as a school girl.

Being new to bait casting and switching from the 5'6" rods to the 6'6"/7' rods I find I whip them too hard when casting causing the spool to over spin causing my back lash. When I whip less I do better then I can fine tune the reel as I go.

I am glad we have provided LGM over here at BR, an environment for him to be himself. He has mellowed out I think, since coming back over here and hanging out with us. That's pretty cool I think.

Nice looking outfits! That extreme is a nice rod, and should fit nicely with your other quality combos.

I use the same uninsulated rain gear I use in the summer. The under layers are where I insulate.

Thoughts and prayers for the family and everyone involved. Unfortanitly that is what today's society is faced with. One reason I always am carring. My wife dosen't not like it that I do but I remind her of the fire extingisher annalagy.

Thanks Griz. Haven't quite gotten out as much as I intended to this year. Had a couple horrible outings too. Hard water is approaching fast for us northerners so i'll probably only be out 1 or 2 more times before I have to winterize the boat and hang it up for the season.

Nice pics guys. The fishing wa pretty good for me this past weekend too. I got a couple fish I can cull my two smallest ones with. Saturday the weather wasnt the best or fishing here in Vermont. Bluebird skies made the shallower fish a little uncooperative. In 8 hours of fishing ny friend and I landed 29 largemouth in 10-22 feet on jigs and rubber worms. Lunker was 6-8 at 22.5 inches. Pics to come soon. I fishes yesteday solo in the light rain and the crankbait bite was on fire. Landed 43 largemouth for the day fishing around deep milfoil beds. Lunker for the day was 3-12 at 19.5 inches. Caught a 3-8 and a 3-4 also on crankbait. Water temp was 58-60 degrees both days. I will post pics as soon as I download them onto the computer.

Totally agree. Our once proud nation has become a socialist paradise. I guess that's what happens when we have leaders that say things like "we're not exceptional".

What you will find is the word "Salt" is the only difference!

I don't really believe a saltwater rod will cast any further than it's freshwater counterpart with the same specs. Of my 7'-7'6 and 8' saltwater rods the difference in distance is not as significant as one may think, I mainly pick my rod length that I'm using for the day based on wind. The stronger the wind the shorter the rod I use, it's easier to handle, 7' being my shortest. No real reason to buy a saltwater rod to fish in freshwater, most of the inshore rods are pretty much what one could classify as all purpose.

First mistake was admiring the lunker and letting it dangle. I'm with Grizzin ... Need to upsize the equipment to an extra heavy.

The past few weeks have been bad for me too. I was all excited for the fall bite only to have it turned off here. I have had days like you mentioned a few time. Stick with it. Usually just as I am about to throw a rod in the water I end up with one really nice fish. It's funny how that will make you forget about all of the other things that happened before.

Never, till I can't get out of the bed to go, till I'm completely burned out. But this year has been different with my cancer and the radiation treatments. I have an extended life now but I still have on and off side effects from the radiation. This is giving me time to clean and arrange my tackle boxes in order and to upgrade my rods and reels plus get into bait casting more. This down time has made me think more about life and what I'm going to do next. My bucket list as of now is to fish, fish and fish more, non stop in the springtime. I'm ordering more tackle so I'm not out of stock on anything. I have a few extra reels and rods. I hope to wear some out. The second thing on my bucket list is to hunt coyotes. I lost two of my cats to yotes. One I had all trained she was so smart. The first time she went outside I lost her. Im going to cash in on the pelts too. It's time to cut back on the population. They say here we lost this past generation of fawns here this year to the predators, we need to correct this. Soon it's payback time.

Nice looking baits and fish! I've been pouring and tying for a couple years now and really enjoy it. I've been fortunate enough to catch lots of nice fish on my baits and even won a couple tournaments with them. My biggest bass on a homemade bait fell for a black and blue 3/8oz bladed jig and went 6.1 pounds. A couple baits.