Losing Senkos...

[Scruffy]

So I will be honest, I am not rich enough to be losing senkos like i am. Yesterday I got to experience the magic that Senkos ensue and i ended up catching like 15 fish in a matter of an hour or so, this was extremely rewarding to me! Unfortunately, just about everytime i would hook up with a fish i would lose my senko in the process...Not to them swallowing it either...They just fall of the line or the fish would jump and it would fly right off. I only got to use the same senko twice and this happened about 3 times...all of the other catches resulted in me losing a senko....Any tips on keeping the Senko from flying off the line, or otherwise just getting lost? At 7 dollars a bag i can't afford this crazy great plastic for very long lol...Please help me.

PS: I am wacky rigging it, just in case you were going to ask. And I'm using a Octopus Circle hook. size 2/0

[roadwarrior]

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[Raul]

Step one: attach the senko to the hook by inserting a toothpick through the senko and hook eye, clip and remove excess toothpick, the bait won 't slide preventing it to tear at the head. ( we mexican guys don 't have to purchase toothpicks, mother nature provided us with a seemingly endless supply of huizache brush thorns )

Step two: Texpose the hook, the bait won 't tear at the middle when the hook slices it, there will be no bait slicing.

Step three: Mend it ( do I need to say more ? )

[Clark Stewart]

I've never heard of anybody who could truthfully justify why a genuine senko is better than any of the knockoffs. I really like the big bite baits and the tiki stiks. *** are great too and if I'm not mistaken made at the same factory as big bites. Can't confirm that though. You can try using a twistlock hook for texas rigging and I'm gonna try a weedless hook (the ones with the little catch that goes against the barb) for wacky rigging today. I'll see how that does.

Needless to say you'll still lose a ton of these things and it makes no sense to spend 7 when you could spend 2.09 for big bites at academy

[Clark Stewart]

Step one: attach the senko to the hook by inserting a toothpick through the senko and hook eye, clip and remove excess toothpick, the bait won 't slide preventing it to tear at the head. ( we mexican guys don 't have to purchase toothpicks, mother nature provided us with a seemingly endless supply of huizache brush thorns )

Step two: Texpose the hook, the bait won 't tear at the middle when the hook slices it, there will be no bait slicing.

Step three: Mend it ( do I need to say more ? )

I've never heard of the toothpick trick - sounds genius

[Raul]

I've never heard of the toothpick trick - sounds genius

Necesity is the mother of invention  , back then when dinosaurs ruled the earth and began fishing "worm" hooks were straight hooks with a couple of cuts to create a couple of barbs along the hook shank ( the danged friggin 'worm kept sliding !  > ) not exactly the best method to keep the worm in place and top it from sliding, I learned that trick from an old fisherman, he didn 't use a toothpick, he used a huizache thorn but huizaches are not found everywhere so you can use a toothpick.  

[Josh Bassman]

Step one: attach the senko to the hook by inserting a toothpick through the senko and hook eye, clip and remove excess toothpick, the bait won 't slide preventing it to tear at the head. ( we mexican guys don 't have to purchase toothpicks, mother nature provided us with a seemingly endless supply of huizache brush thorns )

Step two: Texpose the hook, the bait won 't tear at the middle when the hook slices it, there will be no bait slicing.

Step three: Mend it ( do I need to say more ? )

What is Texpose?

[Jake.]

I've never heard of anybody who could truthfully justify why a genuine senko is better than any of the knockoffs.

They're softer and have a lot more action on the fall.

[Raul]

What is Texpose?

The hook point is not buried in the bait as in the weedless rig, it 's exposed.

[Bassin_Fin@tic]

I've never heard of anybody who could truthfully justify why a genuine senko is better than any of the knockoffs.

They're softer and have a lot more action on the fall.

Amen, and I can't believe I even jumped into this discussion but some of these others mentioned (cough, cough,clearing my throat) are stiff as a piece of leather.

[Crestliner2008]

If you are rigging wacky style, I've used this system for 6 years now with great success. I average 3 - 4 fish per bait:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1236855515

[tnbassfisher]

^Not much different.

As stated, just buy the other brands. $7.00 is quite high for a bag of plastics.

[Bassin_Fin@tic]

I missed that post crestliner.thanks for sharing!

One question though why try to put the hook on the band and then the bait instead of just putting the band on first and the sliding the hook under it? Maybe just because your using a circle hook, or the bands fit really tight?

[KYntucky Warmouth]

I missed that post crestliner.thanks for sharing!

One question though why try to put the hook on the band and then the bait instead of just putting the band on first and the sliding the hook under it? Maybe just because your using a circle hook, or the bands fit really tight?

looks to me like its a snug fit

[Fishing Rhino]

I missed that post crestliner.thanks for sharing!

One question though why try to put the hook on the band and then the bait instead of just putting the band on first and the sliding the hook under it? Maybe just because your using a circle hook, or the bands fit really tight?

Because the hook, in combination with the needle nose pliers makes an opening large enough for the worm to pass through.

Pliers alone, and you'd have a bit of a struggle, possibly tearing the worm, since pliers alone do not allow the worm to pass freely through.

I've tried the goodys on an o-ring tool and it works, but not as well as the illustration with the pliers and hook.

Very difficult to move the doubled up goody band on an o-ring tool.

[flechero]

When I went to o-rings (I use 2 in an "X" on the bait to keep the hook turned) I went from 1-1.5 fish per bait average, up to 5-8 fish average and have had a few last over 10 fish.  When I use *** with o-rings, I usually lose them when I snag in the rocks, not because of a bait tear.    

[Rayraff]

You can also get throw on a weedless hook with the o-ring trick.  It works great. I caught 7 on the same senko last night using that technique

[twitchfish]

Raul,

If not too much PIA, can you send pics of the toothpick trick?

Since going to rings, I seem to gut hook a few. Not a ton, but one is too many in my book. Soft-strikers are my biggest problem wacky rigging.

Thanks - Twitch

[Captain Rhino]

Like others have hinted at or mentioned, I find true senko's to be well made, but least durable of the stick type of bait. Wacky rigging senko's is a good way to rig a bait, but there are cheaper baits that you can use if you are fishing this technique; The other baits will be just as effective, IMO. I also find that senko's dry up faster than their counterparts. From my experiences, you can choose any stick type (imitation of the senko) and it will work exactly the same (make sure it's not a floater or fast sinker first though ).

If you want to stick with the senko's, learn the O'Ring technique. There is actually another thread ( http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1236855515 ) that shows how to do it using cheap elastic bands. I think it is a good idea for an extended life span of a senko. Hopefully this helps!

[Raul]

Raul,

If not too much PIA, can you send pics of the toothpick trick?

Since going to rings, I seem to gut hook a few. Not a ton, but one is too many in my book. Soft-strikers are my biggest problem wacky rigging.

Thanks - Twitch

There you go:

The red line represents the toothpick ( going through the worm into the hook eye and exiting the worm ), just trim the excess toothpick to make it flush with the bait.

[bigbill]

Its 1 fish per senko.  But i switched to bassproshops stick o baits.  They last longer, so much longer i have a bag of used ones i just gave away.(I help others catch fish too)

Its hard to stay with one senko type bait manufacturer because of certain colors too.  I use the gambler ace in blue flake too.  The stick o in red amber flake. On a 1/8oz carolina rig from shore at the dropp off's.

[nitro929]

i dont like useing tooth picks for pegging anything seems like it damages the line so when i thin out my jigs weed guard i keep the left over and use it same as the toothpick no damage to your line

[dmac14]

Raul that is brilliant!

If only I had known that trick two weeks ago. Thats great, it looks like it would work for some flipping baits? Like a beaver. I will have to give this a shot.

Thanks!