eric ba Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 I watched the fizzing video,and wondered what kind of needle the sue-life guy was using.It didn't look like your everyday common needle,so i went to the sure-life web site and did not see a needle of any kind.It really makes me upset to see alot of bass floating around after they get released after a weigh in.I figure if other fishermen see me wading out into the water fizzing these fish they will start doing it them selves.Thanks for any help. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted August 8, 2009 BassResource.com Administrator Posted August 8, 2009 I recommend an 18 gauge 1 1/2 inch needle for fizzing through the side. Quote
RobbyZ5001 Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 I have read many scientific articles through my college Internet journal library that fizzing a bass is actually very detrimental to its health. I can't really go into detail too much about it, because I just don't remember all of the facts they stated. Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 8, 2009 Super User Posted August 8, 2009 Is the needle hollow? Yup. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 9, 2009 Super User Posted August 9, 2009 Bends Mender is a good needle. http://www.***.com/descpageBMA-BMDNP.html You don't need to fizz bass unless the air bladder is over inflated due to extreme depth change quickly. Bass caught in less then 30 feet of water rarely need to be fizzed. Bass also rollover due to stress caused by poor handling and livewell maintenance' high water temps with low DO levels. WRB Quote
Super User Muddy Posted August 9, 2009 Super User Posted August 9, 2009 Hey Rob; SAFE WAY, non - evasive I just slip an ALKASELTZER in their mouths, back in the live well, When the hatch blows open, it means the Bass farted and you can let them go!!!!!!!! Quote
Super User Gatorbassman Posted August 9, 2009 Super User Posted August 9, 2009 I have read many scientific articles through my college Internet journal library that fizzing a bass is actually very detrimental to its health. I can't really go into detail too much about it, because I just don't remember all of the facts they stated. Actually, along with Dough Hannon the people who put that video together are two of the best in the business of keeping fish alive. One is a Scientist who specializes in Aquatic Chemicals for fish and the other is a Biologist who's one of the top authorities on the subject of fish health and keeping fish alive. They have years and years of personal research and study to pull from. I don't think they would tell us how to fizz a fish if it killed them. It's all about doing it right. Quote
RobbyZ5001 Posted August 9, 2009 Posted August 9, 2009 I have read many scientific articles through my college Internet journal library that fizzing a bass is actually very detrimental to its health. I can't really go into detail too much about it, because I just don't remember all of the facts they stated. Actually, along with Dough Hannon the people who put that video together are two of the best in the business of keeping fish alive. One is a Scientist who specializes in Aquatic Chemicals for fish and the other is a Biologist who's one of the top authorities on the subject of fish health and keeping fish alive. They have years and years of personal research and study to pull from. I don't think they would tell us how to fizz a fish if it killed them. It's all about doing it right. I agree with you that they are some of the best in the business and also that they wouldn't steer us wrong. You should know how it is in the scientific field there is ALWAYS conflicting information. I am not trying to put them down and I have fizzed fish already and it does save them, but I am wondering if it is merely a temporary fix. Quote
Super User Gatorbassman Posted August 10, 2009 Super User Posted August 10, 2009 Believe me I understand the Scientific/Medical field. I've been in the medical field for the past 15 years and everyone has an answer and it's hardly ever the same one. It drives me nuts. That's a good question though. In one of their studies they took fish from the weigh-in of a large tournament, put them in a transport tank and moved them to a large holding pond. The main reason for this was to study the affect of their Catch and Release product on them in a Delayed Mortality study. All the fishermen were given the product and taught the proper way to use it. It just so happened that many of these fish had to be fizzed when they got to the holding tank. After a month of being kept in this holding pond it was drained and the fish were counted. Less than two percent of the fish did not survive. Much more than two percent were fizzed. My thinking behind it is like this...... Yes, they have a chance of dieing even after they are fizzed, but they are almost guaranteed to die if they aren't fizzed. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 10, 2009 Super User Posted August 10, 2009 Fizzing bass takes practice and skill to perform properly and is rarely needed during the summer period. In most, but not all, bass lakes the summer thermocline is above 35 feet and so are the bass. If the bass are deeper, then fizzing can be helpful, done properly. The livewell care is essential during the warmer water months. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/fish-care-in-the-livewell.html http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/bass-fishing-hydrogen-peroxide.html Both above videos featuring Sure-Life & Doug Hannon are excellent. WRB PS; Lane was doing a deep water brain damage study where bass were needled and released from water over 40 feet to 60 feet to determine long term mortality do the starvation. One side affect may be loss of memory and ability to catch prey after fizzing. Quote
nitro929 Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 there is one other way that they dont show ,and it dosent poke threw the bass swim bladder open the mouth see the area with the hole for the stomic insert nedel there i use a long football one works gret Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted August 11, 2009 BassResource.com Administrator Posted August 11, 2009 We do NOT recommend that method, simply because there are arteries that can easily be punctured if you don't know what you're doing. Skilled anglers who have been properly taught this method can perform it, but for most people (who learn via the Internet and videos), we strongly recommend the side method performed and explained by Doug Hannon. There's much less chance of killing the bass that way. Thanks! Glenn Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted August 11, 2009 Super User Posted August 11, 2009 I have caught many bass on Erie that I believe to have been fizzed at one time. I say this because of a reddish sore/scar on the side of the fish right where you would insert the needle. Quote
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