Super User fishfordollars Posted May 8, 2009 Super User Posted May 8, 2009 Well you can add me to the list of Rayburn cheaters. I have a dedicated milk run built entirely on brushtops that I have planted over the years. FYI, I don't put them out on the weekend OR during the daylight hours. Too many prying eyes. Jack Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted May 8, 2009 BassResource.com Administrator Posted May 8, 2009 Here's several articles that go into detail about planting cover: http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/creating_fish_cover.html http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/tree_structure.html http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/brush-pile.html http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/bass_structure.html http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/habitat-structure.html http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/pond_building.html Enjoy! Quote
JuniorFisherJJ08 Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 i really dont want to call it cheating even though i did in other posts but it is an unfair advantage. Its like steroids in baseball (anyone can do it). or tar on your recievers gloves in football (again anyone can do it). It just takes some of the compettion and knowledge out of fishing because you dont have to go look for cover etc... But since anyone can do it go ahead.. Why not take the advantage? Honestly if i knew no one would see me and call me a cheater id do it but around here thats what id be labeled as. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted May 8, 2009 Super User Posted May 8, 2009 When I'm on a lake for the first time that is old, the timber has long erroded and serves no purpose of helping sustain life, lack of vegitation of any sorts, the first thing I start looking for on my graph is planted brush piles. Common sense and experience tells me that crappie fishermen love bridges, and where you find bridge pilings, you'll find dropped brush. Where you find brush, you'll find bait and smaller forage seeking security amoungst the cover. Hello, big bass love crappie and the buffet that bridges hold during most times of the year except the spawn. A bridge provides shade 100 percent during the day and offers a buffet 24 hrs a day. next, i look for docks that aren't recreation, wake boats and jet ski's would not be good indicator. I look for docks that have trap doors in the middle, lights close to the water, fishing rod holders, bait traps, minnow buckets, fishing boats, and such. If those docks don't have brush under them, then they'll be in casting range from the dock. When I come up on a point, I will go up and down that point looking for "the sweet spot", and on most occassions, will find planted brush. When I go into marinas with large boat docks. I notice if its a floater that rides up on poles, or one that is on a cable system. The floater moves vertically and is stationary, up or down, the other is positioned due to lake levels. Normally, when lakes drop, the marina has to be pushed out to deeper water using pusher boats or small tug. Marinas are known to have lots of brush out. Marinas on cables may have brush spread out 200 yards due to the dock being moved ever so often due to lake levels dropping or rising. Heres my take on the cheating issue. All being legal in your area. If you haven't fished long enough for these places to be common sense, you probably would not recognize good funnel points to put brush out anyway that would hold or attract fish. What most don't realize, over 2/3 of the brush in lakes are put there by pleasure fishermen. Not tournament fishermen. Learn to read the signs on the wall, they are not hard to read if you just look for them. Whats the difference in setting some brush out or fishing someone elses you found on your own? Cheating. lol Quote
HAMMER23 Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 It's not cheating , it's an excellent idea. I have had holes on toledo that had good fishing but the second I started sinking structure I started concentrating fish were I wanted them. For me its not about a paycheck, I like to boat bass and a sore thumb. Thats what fishing use to be about !! Quote
CatBassin Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 Go to www.jandjhabitat.com. They have cover made of PVC that you can buy, but I think they all would be pretty easy to make on your own. Quote
CODbasser Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 this debate has already been discussed in another thread...read it...you will find out that you will never win this argument..this coming from someone who was just telling us about his structure and to be sure you put it where you want it haha.... let me know when you get your drivers liscense and you can find out if you can beat me...lol...or better yet...when you hit puberty ;D i built my OWN structure on my OWN ponds. i dont tourney fish there. Its pretty sad when a post not making fun of you in anyway, just laughing because what u said was funny. Then u start asking bout my drivers license and puberty. Whats next UR MOM JOKES? if you want, that can be arranged....i know all kinds of good "yo momma" jokes...lol...chillout there ringer...just a joke..ive been refered to as team pampers before here and im 26 lol... Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted May 9, 2009 Super User Posted May 9, 2009 if You have 2 cheat and build your own cover in secret little spots to TRY and beat me your not good. but the way you said that makes me think you have done it. Learn to fish the lake the way it was made. it dont matter to me id still out fish your little rock piles 4-1. WITHOUT MAKING MY OWN SPOTS!!! :'( :'( Jesus kid, I'm starting to believe your ego has it's own zip code. Nothing wrong with creating your own structure. Personally, I'd go with pvc to make it relatively snag proof. that did sound a little angry. Quote
Lil Baby Cousin Ray-Ray Posted May 9, 2009 Posted May 9, 2009 i really dont want to call it cheating even though i did in other posts but it is an unfair advantage. Its like steroids in baseball (anyone can do it). or tar on your recievers gloves in football (again anyone can do it). It just takes some of the compettion and knowledge out of fishing because you dont have to go look for cover etc... But since anyone can do it go ahead.. Why not take the advantage? Honestly if i knew no one would see me and call me a cheater id do it but around here thats what id be labeled as. the reason you think that is because the guys that do it are keeping it a pretty good secret. i guarantee that every tourny you fish there is someone out there fishing cover they made. I hate to break your illusion but I promise you, it is true. Quote
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