microman Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 is useing the black rifle for deer hunting cheating? because i want one, but alot of people dont like the idea of "going rambo" on a deer. i dont think its cheating, but im not sure if it's right. Quote
FL Knifemaker Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 is useing the black rifle for deer hunting cheating? because i want one, but alot of people dont like the idea of "going rambo" on a deer. i dont think its cheating, but im not sure if it's right. Most states have a magazine capacity rule for hunting. IMHO, hunting with a black rifle is fine if you use the required lower capacity magazines. .223 is not a very good deer round but these days there are plenty of AR's built for much larger calibers. An AR10 in .308 would be perfect. The "Going Rambo" concept as a hunter probably won't earn you points with most respectable, law abiding hunters Quote
microman Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 is useing the black rifle for deer hunting cheating? because i want one, but alot of people dont like the idea of "going rambo" on a deer. i dont think its cheating, but im not sure if it's right. Most states have a magazine capacity rule for hunting. IMHO, hunting with a black rifle is fine if you use the required lower capacity magazines. .223 is not a very good deer round but these days there are plenty of AR's built for much larger calibers. An AR10 in .308 would be perfect. The "Going Rambo" concept as a hunter probably won't earn you points with most respectable, law abiding hunters alot of people dont like the idea of a assault rifle in the woods, and a ar15 or m16 is a assault rifle, no matter the mag capacity. Quote
bwell Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 I dont think is a good deer gun, but if you coyote hunt its a perfect gun, do you can use that as an excuse to get one lol. Quote
FL Knifemaker Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 is useing the black rifle for deer hunting cheating? because i want one, but alot of people dont like the idea of "going rambo" on a deer. i dont think its cheating, but im not sure if it's right. Most states have a magazine capacity rule for hunting. IMHO, hunting with a black rifle is fine if you use the required lower capacity magazines. .223 is not a very good deer round but these days there are plenty of AR's built for much larger calibers. An AR10 in .308 would be perfect. The "Going Rambo" concept as a hunter probably won't earn you points with most respectable, law abiding hunters alot of people dont like the idea of a assault rifle in the woods, and a ar15 or m16 is a assault rifle, no matter the mag capacity. If your gun is legal, you abide by the mag capacity rules and you use a caliber that will kill efficiently, I wouldn't worry about what other people think. I hunt hogs here in FL with a black, pistol grip, automatic 12 gauge using slugs. No one raises and eyebrow. I use a mag tube plug to be certain I'm legal. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted February 9, 2010 Super User Posted February 9, 2010 The sorry truth is that any firearm that looks mean and nasty must be bad.....mostly fostered by people who don't understand them. I'm only against it because debating with the misinformed is a no win when they have no desire to truly understand something. Each to their own. Quote
FL Knifemaker Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 The sorry truth is that any firearm that looks mean and nasty must be bad.....mostly fostered by people who don't understand them. I'm only against it because debating with the misinformed is a no win when they have no desire to truly understand something. Each to their own. Well then the answer is to have your evil black rifle coated in a nice, friendly camo pattern and everything will be good Quote
done Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 If its legal is ain't cheating. Get whatever you want that's allowed under the law. Ain't you fault if you get a weapon that gives you an advantage. When I hunted Shotgun, I had a Remington 1100. Had a nice advantage over the guys with bolt actions or even pump action. It's all good though when ya got one on the hood (actually we would put them in the truck bed). As for assault rifles, I never did understand the issue with them. Yeah they were originally designed for killing people but so are handguns and if you listen to PETA, deer are people so.... : Quote
JohnnyBigger Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 It's not cheating, its actually a dis-advantage the AK with the 7.62/39 shell may be illegal in some states but the .223 cal is not and an M16 you cant get without the proper license(full auto) it would be an AR15 (semi auto) but you lack major long range accuracy because the barrel is so short and the .223 lack knockdown power. I say stick with the 30/O-6 or 30/30. Quote
TopDog Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 is useing the black rifle for deer hunting cheating? because i want one, but alot of people dont like the idea of "going rambo" on a deer. i dont think its cheating, but im not sure if it's right. Most states have a magazine capacity rule for hunting. IMHO, hunting with a black rifle is fine if you use the required lower capacity magazines. .223 is not a very good deer round but these days there are plenty of AR's built for much larger calibers. An AR10 in .308 would be perfect. The "Going Rambo" concept as a hunter probably won't earn you points with most respectable, law abiding hunters alot of people dont like the idea of a assault rifle in the woods, and a ar15 or m16 is a assault rifle, no matter the mag capacity. An AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle! Quote
JohnnyBigger Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 actually it is AR stands for assult Rifle.It is a semi auto version of the M16 made after the AR-10 Quote
Taylor Fishin 4 life Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 its perfectly legal here in georgia, i know a lot of people use them as varmits guns mostly. Remington though made a ar15 type product in 308 which is pretty much made for deer. Quote
FL Knifemaker Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 The .50 cal AR variants would make a great deer rifle but they are expensive is so is the ammo. The Beowulf has the same balistics as a 45-70. I've seen them at the SHOT Show and they are beautifully made. IIRC, our coast guard uses them as entry weapons. http://www.alexanderarms.com/beowulf.htm Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted February 9, 2010 Super User Posted February 9, 2010 The last great assault rifle would be my choice..... The M-14! http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14.htm Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted February 9, 2010 Super User Posted February 9, 2010 actually it is AR stands for assult Rifle.It is a semi auto version of the M16 made after the AR-10 Actually, it stands for Armalite Model 15. It is a semi- automatic weapon. Duck hunters use semi-autos. I know several deer hunters that use semi-auto's. Does this look like an "assault rifle" to you? That is a Remington Model 750. My dad uses an older version of this gun. I know several people that use it. Just because a rifle has a synthetic stock and a pistol grip does not mean it's a "bad gun." The only difference is aesthetics. Besides, I'd rather have my .270 bolt action in the woods any day. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted February 9, 2010 Super User Posted February 9, 2010 Hookem, is that model number correct? It's been years since I have had a Remington. I remember the Mod 742 and the Mod 4 but 750 is new to me. Quote
FL Knifemaker Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 The last great assault rifle would be my choice..... The M-14! http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14.htm Hmmmmmm.......... Weighing it at 12+ lbs would make it rather heavy as a hunting rilfe. I love the gun though Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted February 9, 2010 Super User Posted February 9, 2010 Hookem, is that model number correct? It's been years since I have had a Remington. I remember the Mod 742 and the Mod 4 but 750 is new to me. Yes sir. http://remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-750/model-750-woodsmaster.aspx Like I said, my dad had an older version this gun. It looks similar (it's a semi-auto .30-06), but I don't know if it's the same model. I'll try to ask him about it one day. Quote
VolFan Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Remington's had several models of semi-auto guns in deer-appropriate calibers. I believe teh 7400 and 7600 were also semi-autos. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted February 9, 2010 Super User Posted February 9, 2010 Hookem, is that model number correct? It's been years since I have had a Remington. I remember the Mod 742 and the Mod 4 but 750 is new to me. Yes sir. http://remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-750/model-750-woodsmaster.aspx Like I said, my dad had an older version this gun. It looks similar (it's a semi-auto .30-06), but I don't know if it's the same model. I'll try to ask him about it one day. Just curious, thanks. Quote
Carrington Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 honesty, we have an ar-15 from stag arms. i would never shoot it at a dear. first off the bullet leaves the barrel ar around 3200-3600 fps which is much faster then most hunting rifles ive seen, second it would probably go through the deer which means you have the chance to hit someone in the distance. and finaly its just not meant to be hunted with its meant for military use and police use. Quote
Carrington Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 forget that last most, i thought you were talking about the ar-15 lol, my mistake Quote
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