Super User Tin Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 After my surgery 2 weeks ago they gave me some vicodin. Which I really needed just to get out of bed and do "certain things". One pill truly did NOTHING to me so I woud take 2 (which the doc said was fine), and I would take 2 in the morning after I ate so I could just get out of bed, and 2 at night so I could fall asleep, and a few times I woke up in a lot of pain and had to take another 2 in the middle of the night. Well I stopped taking them a couple days ago because I was feeling fine, no pain. Since then I have been getting headaches, get sick to my stomach, and can't sleep at night. So I call my doctor today, and simply put, it is withdrawals from the vicodin. I never realized how bad the stuff was for you and how easy you can get hooked on it. I know everyones system isn't the same, but if you have to mess with the stuff, take it easy. Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Pain killers are scarily addictive. My friend's father had a serious problem with Oxycontin, which he started taking because of serious knee problems. The life-ruining potential of all of these medications is very scary. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 I have been a member of a 12 step program for 16 1/6 years, and by no coincidince I have been clean 16 1/2 years 1 Cause of relapse : Pain and Pycotropic drugs, Teating an addict with drugs is like giving cyanide to a poisin patient! That being said, a lot of new comers that come in speak of pain meds leading to street drugs A DRUG < IS A DRUG IS A DRUG Tin call me brother Quote
Super User Sam Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 Muddy, you are so right. We get adicted easily and when we get legal drugs many people don't think that they are addictive. Right now all I take is an 81 miligram asprin each day. I hope never to have to be on pain or other meds. You are doing great so keep up the good work. And for Mook, you are OK. ;D ;D ;D Quote
slomoe Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 My sisters been abusing oxy's for as long as I can remember. She's been on methadon since being released from jail, but I guarantee shes still on other drugs. I won't take any of that crap unless I really have too, and when I do I never finish them. Vicodin is actually a lot milder than others but when you've been taking anything for an extended period of time, your bound to get withdrawals. Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 20, 2008 Author Super User Posted November 20, 2008 I use to think it would take a lot to get hooked, I can really see how little it takes now. I mean I could easily avoid the symptoms by taking one, but I know better. I only smoked for a few years, but even then, when I quit cold turkey I didn't get headaches or feel like this. Pretty sad there are not better alternatives for pain and such. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 800 - 1000mg of Ibuprophen 4 times a day. I used this dose aftewr my bariatric bypass. I told them I was in recovery they gave me a huge quantity of Oxycotin, and they said I would be on it for a month then detox with methadone. I TOLD THEM I WAS IN RECOVERy and I do not think they were feeling it. I got home, threw the nacotic out and friends stayed with me 24/7 for 2 wweks. I did not want to be any kind of hero, but I fear active addiction more than death. I got through and they did not believe it could be done. Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 21, 2008 Super User Posted November 21, 2008 One of the biggest additions in America right now is prescription medicine, pharmaceutical industry is pushing em like crazy & doctors are prescribing them like candy. Another one to watch is the medicines prescribed for treating ADD / ADHD with the worst being Adderall, just look at what it is. Adderall is a brand-name pharmaceutical psychostimulant, A psychostimulant is a substance that enhances locomotor behavior. Examples of psychostimulants include amphetamine, methamphetamine, cocaine, methylphenidate, and arecoline, the most widely used psychostimulant. These is legalized SPEED prescribed to kids! Quote
bmadd Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Catt I actually posted about Adderall not too long ago. It's composed of 5 different amphetamines and is a popular drug here on my campus. One guy in some of my classes comes in looking like death everyday. After a rough childhood on my legs, I'm starting to get arthritis (@ age 20 sucks). I try hard now not to pop tylenol extra strength like candy. I'm afraid of what it will do to my stomach. Glad you're working through it Tin Quote
atx_newbie Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I know what you mean. I had ACL surgery Monday, and they prescribed Vicodin and Ibproufen. I told them I wasn't going to take the Vicodin, since I already know that I have an addictive personality, and I was basically ordered to take it. Today is my first day off of it, so hopefully after only a few days of taking it I won't have too many problems. The Ibuproufen (600 mg, 3 times a day) I could not do without, I don't think. It does wonders for keeping the swelling down, which in turn prevents a lot of the pain. Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 21, 2008 Author Super User Posted November 21, 2008 I find it pretty screwed up how easy it is to get vicodin from a doctor, walk in, act like you're in pain, he gives you them. In the past 3 years I had doctors prescribe me vicodin 6 times, (shoulder, 2 groin tears, discloated finger that I popped back in and broke, and they gave me 2 slips for after th surgery) but only acctually needed it twice. There is a big difference in pain, and discomfort imo. But it seems like if you just don't feel well, you get it. And I agree 100% about the Adderall, it is a college students dream drug in the beginning. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted November 21, 2008 Super User Posted November 21, 2008 but when kids who actually have ADD or ADHD take Adderall, it has the opposite affect of the stimulants. The problem is that ADD and ADHD are such vague diagnoses that pretty much any kid can go in there and get a prescription and then turn around and abuse their medication and/or sell it to others. Quote
Daniel A. Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Very few people realize the addiction potential of prescription drugs. The body becomes physically dependent much quicker than we (as patients) think. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted November 21, 2008 Super User Posted November 21, 2008 but when kids who actually have ADD or ADHD take Adderall, it has the opposite affect of the stimulants. The problem is that ADD and ADHD are such vague diagnoses that pretty much any kid can go in there and get a prescription and then turn around and abuse their medication and/or sell it to others. The pharmectical indusrty itslef admits this is over used, and that ADT is often a misdiagnosis. The biochemistry of syapse tranmission is different in children than adults, that is why IT GIVES THE APPERANCE of having the oppisite, but none the less addicting I have been diagnosed with depression and ADD, they made this diagnosis when i got clean, well I was depressed I couldn't get high anymore. They have always wanted to stick me with one drug or other I have never wanted to or attempted to hurt myself, I cannot keep focused on any one thing for 2 long, and my brain is a carnival some days and a dark cloud other. I am able to lead a wonderful and grateful life without their drugs! Quote
Super User Dan: Posted November 21, 2008 Super User Posted November 21, 2008 but when kids who actually have ADD or ADHD take Adderall, it has the opposite affect of the stimulants. The problem is that ADD and ADHD are such vague diagnoses that pretty much any kid can go in there and get a prescription and then turn around and abuse their medication and/or sell it to others. The pharmectical indusrty itslef admits this is over used, and that ADT is often a misdiagnosis. The biochemistry of syapse tranmission is different in children than adults, that is why IT GIVES THE APPERANCE of having the oppisite, but none the less addicting I have been diagnosed with depression and ADD, they made this diagnosis when i got clean, well I was depressed I couldn't get high anymore. They have always wanted to stick me with one drug or other I have never wanted to or attempted to hurt myself, I cannot keep focused on any one thing for 2 long, and my brain is a carnival some days and a dark cloud other. I am able to lead a wonderful and grateful life without their drugs! The bottom line is that those drugs CAN be very helpful to people especially kids who really do have ADD. The problem isn't the drug, it is the doctors' inability or unwillingness to to be more strict in their diagnoses or to find a way to more accurately diagnose the disease. Quote
justfishin Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I am in the Health Field and I see it all the time. RX painkillers are a real problem. Most of the doc's know this and in serious cases assign a pain management team to wean the patients off the drugs after awhile. I had them when I had my three surgeries on my crushed leg and like I told my surgeon, its no wonder they are so addictive, they make me feel like a million bucks. Needless to say, I took a little more pain and stopped taking them. For you young guys ones. Just don't take them, bottom line. You will have problems that you don't want. Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 21, 2008 Author Super User Posted November 21, 2008 . The problem is that ADD and ADHD are such vague diagnoses that pretty much any kid can go in there and get a prescription and then turn around and abuse their medication and/or sell it to others. Beginning to hear a lot of people with ADD/ADHD now having Asperger's. They need to start breaking things down more. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted November 21, 2008 Super User Posted November 21, 2008 Beginning to hear a lot of people with ADD/ADHD now having Asperger's. They need to start breaking things down more. Well it's not like Asperger's (autism) is any easier to diagnose. The one end of the spectrum of people with autism sometimes show very few symptoms or symptoms that could be other things or just poor social skills. and a lot of times, autism is combined with other types of conditions, especially ADD/ADHD Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 21, 2008 Author Super User Posted November 21, 2008 I got ya DD. Quote
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