32251 Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 I found that after you finish fishing and store the rod/reel till the next fishing trip---say a week or two- the line is in awful shape. All kinked up and hard. Anyone else? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 No. I have been using it for two years or so and never experience any negative consequences of any kind. In fact, I HIGHLY recommend KVD Line & Lure Conditioner. 8-) Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 Never had that problem, however, since I switched to Yozuri hybrid ultrasoft, I stopped using my kvd conditioner, cuz the line really didn't need it.. If for some strange reason I switched back to another line, I'm sure I would begin using the kvd again Quote
-HAWK- Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 No.I have been using it for two years or so and never experience any negative consequences of any kind. In fact, I HIGHLY recommend KVD Line & Lure Conditioner. 8-) +1 Quote
Banor Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 I've voiced my opinions on this before and am in the very small minority. I just do not see the benefits of this stuff. I wont go so far as to say it hurts my line performance but I definately have not realized any noticeable benefits. I've given it an honest try too. Used it several outings and just nothing different about my line. B Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 I found that after you finish fishing and store the rod/reel till the next fishing trip---say a week or two- the line is in awful shape. All kinked up and hard. Anyone else? Where do you store your equipment ? Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 I found that after you finish fishing and store the rod/reel till the next fishing trip---say a week or two- the line is in awful shape. All kinked up and hard. Anyone else? I noticed this too with P-Line Flouroclear, it seems dry and stiff, almost like it would crack if bent, also it looked swollen but everything seems good as new with a few more squirts but It doesn't sit right with me Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 I don't see that issue, but I retreat after each trip, per the instructions. I have a suspicion that what you are seeing is dried debris from the water. I used to see this even before using KVD L&L, especially on fluoro. I pretreat the filler spools before spooling up the reels, and some are at least a year old, adn they look as good as the day after I treated them. Quote
daviscw Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 I found that after you finish fishing and store the rod/reel till the next fishing trip---say a week or two- the line is in awful shape. All kinked up and hard. Anyone else? Yep. I've repeatedly stated my fluorocarbon gets worse. I hate the stuff. If I had the receipt I would send it back for my money. I HIGHLY recommend you throw it in the trash. Quote
Super User Tin Posted October 15, 2009 Super User Posted October 15, 2009 If you use a good line from the get-go you won't need a line conditioner. Quote
32251 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 If you use a good line from the get-go you won't need a line conditioner. Agreed. YoZuri....good line. Still looks awful after using this stuff. Quote
32251 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 I found that after you finish fishing and store the rod/reel till the next fishing trip---say a week or two- the line is in awful shape. All kinked up and hard. Anyone else? Where do you store your equipment ? In the garage right next to my car when I get home. Sometimes I don't even get it out of the car. No matter...still looks and feels awful after a week or so. I am finished with this stuff. I am not going to get hooked to the point where when I put it on my line I have to keep putting it on or the line goes to crap. Quote
32251 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 I found that after you finish fishing and store the rod/reel till the next fishing trip---say a week or two- the line is in awful shape. All kinked up and hard. Anyone else? Yep. I've repeatedly stated my fluorocarbon gets worse. I hate the stuff. If I had the receipt I would send it back for my money. I HIGHLY recommend you throw it in the trash. Goes into the round file!! All I needed was one other person who had the same trouble. I use flurocarbon. Quote
Kenny418 Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I'm with the minority on this one. When I was using P-line and tried the kvd it does something to the line after about a week. I store my rods on my boat deck in my garage. When I would go to use them the line would be alot stiffer and would look milky. I have since switched to Segaur, but I haven't tried kvd with it. I dont know if it works or not, but I do just fine with out it. Quote
Super User Micro Posted October 15, 2009 Super User Posted October 15, 2009 I've used it precisely as directed and found it to have next to no benefit. IMO, it's more trouble than its worth. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted October 15, 2009 BassResource.com Administrator Posted October 15, 2009 32251 - I've spoken to Rob Faddis, owner of the company, about your issue, and he tells me that he has heard of this happening in rare cases, yet nobody has been willing to send him the affected line so that he can investigate. Would you be willing to send that line to him? He said he is more than willing to give you a 100% refund either way. He's a stellar guy that takes care of his customers. Quote
32251 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 32251 - I've spoken to Rob Faddis, owner of the company, about your issue, and he tells me that he has heard of this happening in rare cases, yet nobody has been willing to send him the affected line so that he can investigate. Would you be willing to send that line to him?He said he is more than willing to give you a 100% refund either way. He's a stellar guy that takes care of his customers. Line is gone in the trash, weeks ago and so is the KVD line juice---tonight. If I had known he wanted a sample then I would have been glad to send it to him. Glad that others have had good luck with this product. I and a few others seem to be in the minority. I will not be using it anymore. That certainly is not to encourage others not to. I caught plenty of fish the last two weeks without it, so I figure I don't need it anyway. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 15, 2009 Super User Posted October 15, 2009 IMO nothing works better than soaking your line in a bucket of water, preferably hot, obviously water won't hurt your line as that is the intent of the line.....to be in water. If one truly believes that this stuff works use it, but I see no reason to. I think buying the banjo minnow is a better investment. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted October 15, 2009 Super User Posted October 15, 2009 I truly think that it affects knot strength. I stopped using it about six months ago, after a few mysterious break offs. The bad part was, they were fish on 8-10 inch swimbaits. So not only big fish gone, but a couple hundred dollars worth of baits too. Hasnt happened since I stopped using the stuff. Im not gonna flat out say that L&L was the problem, but it definitely hurt my confidence in my gear. Quote
aceman387 Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 i bought one bottle and didn't notice anything different with my line SO never bought it anymore. Quote
Chuck H. Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Just last week I re-spooled some BPS XPS flouro. on my reels that had been on there since the beginning of the year. The line was treated with Line & Lure before every trip and was still in perfect condition. I just re-spooled due to a couple of big tournaments coming up and not wanting to take a chance on nicks in the line I wasn't aware of. All I know is that Line & Lure works for me. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted October 15, 2009 Super User Posted October 15, 2009 I truly think that it affects knot strength.I stopped using it about six months ago, after a few mysterious break offs. The bad part was, they were fish on 8-10 inch swimbaits. So not only big fish gone, but a couple hundred dollars worth of baits too. Hasnt happened since I stopped using the stuff. Im not gonna flat out say that L&L was the problem, but it definitely hurt my confidence in my gear. Obviously, I am not catching fish as big as the ones you have out there but I havent noticed an issue. I cant imagine the CXX without it. :-/ Didnt you break those off during your line experiment? Quote
Five-Alive Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 my partner purchased some earlier this year and we have both been using it with no problems. Quote
ValkyrieRider Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I use it everytime I go out. Definite increase in casting distance. Quote
Willzx225 Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I've been using it for a couple of years and wouldn't consider using fluro without it. Also works great on depth finder screens and sunglasses. Quote
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