Tanker4lyfe Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Ok so i was recently told by a awesome pro that it is not good to use the palomar knot with fluorocarbon lines (which i now use for everything except topwater and heavy flipping), because it being so strong it will actually cut thru itself. So this bring up the question what knots do you like with which lines???? Quote
Tanker4lyfe Posted June 25, 2009 Author Posted June 25, 2009 O ya personally ive always used the palomar knot and have had minimal issues mostly dry line causing it to give. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted June 25, 2009 Super User Posted June 25, 2009 I use the 16/20 with all lines. Quote
TrippyJai Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 I use the Palomar knot for everything. Just retie after a few fish. I've been using this knot since I was young and it's 1 of only 3 knots that I know how to tie. Quote
lineman711 Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 With all lines, I find myself using the Trilene knot and Improved Clinch more than anything else. Simple, yes I know, but they've always worked for me. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted June 25, 2009 Super User Posted June 25, 2009 All my line is yozuri hybrid ultra soft..I use mostly the palomar, but some baits get the Trilene knot. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted June 25, 2009 Super User Posted June 25, 2009 Really. Well, after drop shotting 4# test fluorocarbon for 6 years now - this being my 7th. - I've never had a problem using the palomar knot. I'm fishing for SM in a deep, very clear reservoir and have caught many hundreds of fish over the years, 2 1/2 - 4 3/4 lbs., with no problems. So, maybe someone needs to tell your "pro" how to tie a palomar knot! Quote
Tanker4lyfe Posted June 25, 2009 Author Posted June 25, 2009 well everyone has they're right to opinion and all lines(brands)are different. so I wouldnt go as far as saying he needs to learn how to tie a knot considering he's a very accomplished angler. like I said, I myself have always tied the palomar knot (so much that I can tie it in about 5 seconds) and i have never had any issue just thought id spark the discussion. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted June 26, 2009 Super User Posted June 26, 2009 [movedhere] Fishing Tackle [move by] five.bass.limit. Quote
BenoBreath Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 With all lines, I find myself using the Trilene knot and Improved Clinch more than anything else. Simple, yes I know, but they've always worked for me. X2 !! Quote
CookieMonst3r Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I've always used the Improved Clinch for everything. Hasn't failed me yet! Quote
Super User burleytog Posted June 26, 2009 Super User Posted June 26, 2009 The key to any knot is proper lubrication. When tying a palomar with flourocarbon, you must take special care to coat the knot with spit and slowly cinch using the tag end. Try tying a knot without spit and using the mainline to cinch. The line above the knot will look wavy like curly hair. That is due to the friction generated from cinching the knot. Now do the same thing, but get the knot good and wet and cinch by pulling the tag end. The line shouldn't be curly. Patience and lubrication is what it takes. I've never used anything but a palomar with flourocarbon and I've never had a knot break. I may have to cut & retie on occasion if I've gotten in a hurry, but that's about it. Quote
sweet daddy Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I use the palomar on braid only, and it will break just as easy as any other knot if you snag up. Floro, and mono get a clinch. There is no alpha omega knot, they all break. My braid is 50, and 65 power pro, and yes it will break off almost as easy as mono. My floro is seaguar red label, I have tried the invisx, and the abrazex, and the red works just as well for less. I don't really use mono any more, but the last mono I bought was a bulk spool of bps 12lb excel, and it sucked. Quote
Dave T. Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I use an improved clinch or a palomar knot with braid, and really can't tell the difference in performance. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 26, 2009 Super User Posted June 26, 2009 I use the 16/20 with all lines. I use the Sixteen-Twenty to tie on big, treble hook lures where the Palomar Knot is just too cumbersome. However, the Palomar can be used for all lines and lures. 8-) Quote
bass wrangler569 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Palomar. I've never been broken off at the knot when using palomar, even with fluoro. Improved clinches are weak IMO but I know they work for some people. Quote
Cavfirst Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I use the eye-crosser with floro and the palomar with everything else. My tests show that even though floro is plenty strong and the palomar works well with floro for the most part for some reason its not very shock resistant when used on floro. Meaning when your pitchin or flipping and really set that hook if the line is crossed at the hook tie eye the floro will cut into it self and snap at the knot no matter what knot ive used. I just find it easier to tell if the line is crossed by using this cool named knot and its just about as easy to tie as the palomar and showed about the same strengtht at knot wars last year. Tight Lines Quote
Bernie Mac Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 I usually use the uni know for everything, but I might start trying that eye-crosser, it looks easy and that it will keep a high percentage of the line strength Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 27, 2009 Super User Posted June 27, 2009 When your line becomes nicked or frayed you can lose up to 85% in breaking strength. It doesn't make much sense to anguish over knots with breaking strengths that are 3% apart. My philosophy has always been to select a good knot that can be used for everything (trebled plugs included), and a knot that is easy to tie. In this fashion you'll become an expert at tying that one knot. Long story short, I've been using the Uni-knot for fresh and saltwater angling for 25 years or more. It can be used for braid and mono and requires no pre-wetting or special attention. Firmly snug the uni-knot before the final tightening, and it will never slip, never break and never disappoint. Roger Quote
JKLOCK Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 I only use the San Diego Jam Knot for all my florocarbon line. See the following article and page down to the florocarbon section. http://www.calfishing.com/freshwater/holistic_swimbaits/Lines_and_Knots.html Here's how you tie it. http://www.marlinnut.com/knots/sandiego.shtml SeniorBasser Quote
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