eatnsleepfishing Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 I have been using 12-15 LB Seaguar fluorocarbon to fish a shakey head but have had trouble breaking line on hook set.I have new rods that are 7' MH and got along fine till fish moved up shallow the last couple weeks.I have lost several fish from this.What is your guys take on this and what should I go to next?I fish in MO. Table Rock most but very clear water. Thanks for your help Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 13, 2008 Super User Posted November 13, 2008 Wetting your knots? And what kind of cover are you fishing that you need 12-15 pound line and MH rods for a shakey head? Quote
eatnsleepfishing Posted November 13, 2008 Author Posted November 13, 2008 Chunk rock and ceder trees.I use a 5/16 head and a 5 1/4 Senko. Quote
flipinstick88 Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 What kind of knot are you tying? I know with most flourocarbons if you don't tye a palamor knot correctly that it will cut itself. Quote
eatnsleepfishing Posted November 14, 2008 Author Posted November 14, 2008 That is what I use and I make sure the loop is above the main knot. Thanks Quote
Super User Sam Posted November 14, 2008 Super User Posted November 14, 2008 If you are tieing the Palamor Knot correctly and you are still encountering line break plase consider the following: Run your thumb nail along your line after landing each fish or after 10 casts. If you feel any knicks or scrapes then you will need to cut the line and retie. Run the line over your thumbnail s-l-o-w-l-y to feel any cuts or nicks. When in doubt, cut the line and retie. When tightening a Palamor Knot, be sure to pull the main line first and then the tag end to tighten the knot. Wet the knot before tightning it. If you have ANY line burn(line is curley), retie. Leave some tag end line to give the knot leverage if it gets loose. Fishing in your conditions and having the bass' teeth damage the line will mean that you will have to double check your line and knots after each fish and at least 10 casts. So give this a try and see if you can stop the line breaking at or above the knot or along the line. Quote
Willzx225 Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 I was having trouble breaking fluro on the hook set as well and I am sure it was bad knots but I have been tying Palomar knots for 10 years w/o any problems so I switched to the improved clinch knot on Fluro and it has worked beautifully for me. Quote
eatnsleepfishing Posted November 14, 2008 Author Posted November 14, 2008 Thanks guys I will try the clinch knot.I'm sure its breaking at the knot.After the line breaks you can see the little curl at the end where it went through the lure eye. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 14, 2008 Super User Posted November 14, 2008 Try this one, too: http://206.210.94.83/assets/recommended_knots/pdf/fhf_knot_sixteen_twenty.pdf 8-) Quote
Matt 825 Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 Try this one, too:http://206.210.94.83/assets/recommended_knots/pdf/fhf_knot_sixteen_twenty.pdf 8-) Is this knot the same as the San Diego Jam Knot? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 14, 2008 Super User Posted November 14, 2008 Almost, but you don't put the tag through the lower loop (next to the eye). The Sixteen-Twenty is also known as a Duncan Knot and as the Pitzen Knot. I use it for bigger lures and for heavier lines. I don't know exactly how it ranks in strength, but I have never had an issue of any kind. When tightened down, this knot looks and acts like a noose: the knot tightens as the line is pulled. 8-) Quote
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