bronzeback01 Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I was in a store today and found a diawa steez spinning rod model stz 681mlfsa for 309.00 new , i think i'm going to buy it but the question i have is that before i really got into using good gear i was an ugly stik man and i remember the foam grip getting all distorted after a while , is that going to happen w/the steez handle ? Quote
Megastink Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 IMO, three words come to mind when i think "Steez".... Waste Of Money! Buy a St. Croix. For 1/2 the price of a steez, you can own a equal or superior product (IMO) Quote
michaelkim_9582 Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 u should have to worry about that because the steez rods are made of different material than the EVA foam that comes with the ugly stick. Its more durable and alot lighter too! Quote
Chad. Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 IMO, three words come to mind when i think "Steez".... Waste Of Money! Buy a St. Croix. For 1/2 the price of a steez, you can own a equal or superior product (IMO) Are you for real are you just talking out of your butt? Steez is lighter than ANY st croix of comparable action/ power much more detail beautifully crafted sensitive rods and 310 is a steal. Quote
Megastink Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Like i said, in my opinion (IMO). And yes, i'm for real. $310 may be a steal for that rod, but i don't see the point in spending THAT much on ONE rod, unless you could g. The weight cant be by more then an once or two, annd the bass dont care how beautiful your spinning rod, OR how much you paid for it. Why buy one rod when you can buy 2 of an, (read these next three words carefully) in my opinion, equal quality rod from st. croix, or other top name brand. But then again, i've only been fishing for 15 years, what do i know? Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted July 13, 2008 Super User Posted July 13, 2008 Like i said, in my opinion (IMO). And yes, i'm for real. $310 may be a steal for that rod, but i don't see the point in spending THAT much on ONE rod, unless you could g. The weight cant be by more then an once or two, annd the bass dont care how beautiful your spinning rod, OR how much you paid for it. Why buy one rod when you can buy 2 of an, (read these next three words carefully) in my opinion, equal quality rod from st. croix, or other top name brand. But then again, i've only been fishing for 15 years, what do i know? and i assume you buy your own gear................... Quote
Megastink Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Doesn't everyone? Look, I have no sponsors, if that is what you're hinting at. I own rods from Berkley, Quantum, Quarrow, Shimano, and St. Croix. All I'm saying is that I don't think ANY rod is worth that much money, I dont care how light or beautiful it is. Fishing is a confidence game, so if throwing a $310 STEEZ is gonna make you more confident, then by all means. But the rod doesn't make you a better fisherman, it is merely an extention of your own two hands. So if you want to go and spend $310+ dollars on a rod, go for it... I just think that you can get more bang for your buck elsewhere. Quote
Chad. Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 ^ were you talking to me or the other guy, anyways an avid is not the same quality of a steez an that all i have to say if you have the 310$ go for it! Quote
Chad. Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 I just think that you can get more bang for your buck elsewhere. I can agree with that no doubt, but the way you put it in your first post made is seem like a rod half the price was just as good if not better? Quote
Super User burleytog Posted July 13, 2008 Super User Posted July 13, 2008 Using that logic, why spend $300 on two St. Croix rods when you can buy 10 Ugly Sticks? Quote
Megastink Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Thats what i said, exactly, followed by, "In my opinion..." Look, you can disagree with me if you want, well and good. Like i said, its my opinion. Im not saying that the Steez is a bad or lower quality rod. But its just that, a rod. I dont think it would help me catch more fish. I feel that i can do better with a lower priced rod. Its not worth the money. And thats my opinion. Chaddy, remember this: Its not the rod that defines the fisherman, its the fisherman that defines the fisherman. Quote
Max-in-Mn Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 I admit, I would buy it. I figure, it's going to last you the rest of your life, so you'll definitely get your moneys worth in the long run. For most gear I am a cheapskate, but not when it comes to rods. I like to buy the absolute best I can afford. Bait monkey says go for it ;D Quote
Megastink Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 lol, hey, if you are more confident in ugly sticks, then go ahead... Ill stick with my St.'s. Quote
daviscw Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 I was in a store today and found a diawa steez spinning rod model stz 681mlfsa for 309.00 new , i think i'm going to buy it but the question i have is that before i really got into using good gear i was an ugly stik man and i remember the foam grip getting all distorted after a while , is that going to happen w/the steez handle ? Bottom line- Get what YOU want with the amount of money YOU want to spend. There are no rules, so get what makes you happiest! Quote
Megastink Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Couldnt agree more, it all comes down to confidence. Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Using a Steez might not catch you more fish, but I guarantee that when you do catch a fish, it will be more pleasurable than catching a fish with an Avid And that's not at all saying that Avids are not darn good rods. Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted July 13, 2008 Super User Posted July 13, 2008 Thats what i said, exactly, followed by, "In my opinion..." Look, you can disagree with me if you want, well and good. Like i said, its my opinion. Im not saying that the Steez is a bad or lower quality rod. But its just that, a rod. I dont think it would help me catch more fish. I feel that i can do better with a lower priced rod. Its not worth the money. And thats my opinion. Chaddy, remember this: Its not the rod that defines the fisherman, its the fisherman that defines the fisherman. OK. I disagree with you. Quote
Megastink Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman. Quote
Chad. Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman. It will make a good fishermen a better angler this has been talked about a lot it's like a car some guy driving a f430 will get smashed on the track to an experienced driver driving an subaru sti or Mitsubishi evolution now give that driver the f430 and no doubt he will be faster on the track. Quote
Megastink Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Ok, i think youre trying to disagree again. In your example, its the DRIVER that makes the difference, reguardless of the car, just like its the FISHERMAN, not the rod. You just agreed with me. Now then, I'm done talking about this, but feel free to debate with yourself. Quote
Chad. Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Ok, i think youre trying to disagree again. In your example, its the DRIVER that makes the difference, reguardless of the car, just like its the FISHERMAN, not the rod. You just agreed with me. Now then, I'm done talking about this, but feel free to debate with yourself. I never did disagree that the angler makes the difference in fact everyone knows it does, but a better rod can help a skilled angler even better? AM i wrong here Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted July 14, 2008 Super User Posted July 14, 2008 I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman. You cared enough to respond. : Quote
Chad. Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman. You cared enough to respond. : woah easy now Quote
BassinSoldier Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Some folks sure can get riled up over some trivial B.S. huh??? Seems the original question got lost somewhere amidst all the arguing too, huh? Hell if I was swimming in money I'd buy one just cuz I could...seems to be a pretty bad *** rod. Just a broke *** soldier in Iraq here though, happy as all hell to be coming home to a brand new TD Zillion that 4 family members had to throw in on to get me for my birthday. Seriously guys...Why argue about something so dumb??? Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted July 14, 2008 Super User Posted July 14, 2008 Some folks sure can get riled up over some trivial B.S. huh??? Seems the original question got lost somewhere amidst all the arguing too, huh? Hell if I was swimming in money I'd buy one just cuz I could...seems to be a pretty bad *** rod. Just a broke *** soldier in Iraq here though, happy as all hell to be coming home to a brand new TD Zillion that 4 family members had to throw in on to get me for my birthday. Seriously guys...Why argue about something so dumb??? Great point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
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