Have you found EWG ball jigs to be as effective for weedless tube rigging as the stupid rig?

[Ohioguy25]

I have exhausted my search for a stupid tube jig that fits the short 2.75” fat tubes. At this point I’m facing either upsizing to something like Blue Rock’s 3.5” stupid rig or using a ball head EWG.
 

If so, what size do you recommend for KVD 2.75” fat coffee tubes?  Looking at these two brands, although leaning toward the BKK as it’s available in 1/4. Is 2/0 probably the best fit?

 

https://discounttackle.com/products/owner-ultrahead-finesse-ball-jig-head

 

https://discounttackle.com/products/bkk-silent-chaser-1x-ewg-round-head-hook

[Munkin]

Wacky Head Jig - Sz: 3/32, 1/8, 3/16, 1/4 - Hk: 785 - Collar: None (do-itmolds.com)

 

My suggestion would be to try some of these flick shake heads without the weedguard. Mustad makes a size 1 hook for this mold and the Mustad 91768 in sizes 1/0 to 6/0.

 

The reason you cannot find a stupid head for this is the hooks (60 degree EWG) used are not made in any sizes except 3/0 and 4/0. 

 

I will try and check tomorrow to see what hooks I have and compare to a small tube.

 

Allen

[Ohioguy25]

1 hour ago, Munkin said:

Wacky Head Jig - Sz: 3/32, 1/8, 3/16, 1/4 - Hk: 785 - Collar: None (do-itmolds.com)

 

My suggestion would be to try some of these flick shake heads without the weedguard. Mustad makes a size 1 hook for this mold and the Mustad 91768 in sizes 1/0 to 6/0.

 

The reason you cannot find a stupid head for this is the hooks (60 degree EWG) used are not made in any sizes except 3/0 and 4/0. 

 

I will try and check tomorrow to see what hooks I have and compare to a small tube.

 

Allen

Thanks!

[GRiver]

On 6/8/2024 at 5:46 PM, Ohioguy25 said:

have exhausted my search for a stupid tube jig

Have you looked in ebay? There is a kid on the that made me some bigger ewg hooks Ned rigs 

I’ll try to look it up, he might be making them or make them for ya. 
 

[Ohioguy25]

1 hour ago, GRiver said:

Have you looked in ebay? There is a kid on the that made me some bigger ewg hooks Ned rigs 

I’ll try to look it up, he might be making them or make them for ya. 
 

I don’t need bigger I need smaller lol. I even tried the #1 Nedlockz and they don’t fit either. 

[Munkin]

So here are some I poured on some size 2 wacky rig hooks I had to bend from 30 to 60 degrees. Mustad 91768 hook maybe a little too long? Do-It hook looks like it would work. This is a 2.75" Bite Rite tube for a size reference. Both hooks can be poured in 1/8 and 3/16oz cavities but the Do-It hook does not fit anything bigger.

 

Allen

[dwtaylor]

Core tackle weedless hover rig.  The hook will come out the back of the tube like a normal tube jig.

 

Rig like a normal hover rig bait, but try to stuff a bit of plastic worm in the middle of the tube before rigging.  The hover rig lead diameter is much smaller than the inside diameter of the tube so fit is an issue without the extra plastic.  

 

If you don't care about the spiral, rig it on the back of a normal weedless jig like a flipping jig without the skirt (got the idea from James Watson).  This rigging style has caught me some good fish this year and is my go to with fishing this profile of bait on a power fishing flipping/heavy cover setup.

 

[Texas Flood]

25 minutes ago, dwtaylor said:

Core tackle weedless hover rig.  The hook will come out the back of the tube like a normal tube jig.

 

Rig like a normal hover rig bait, but try to stuff a bit of plastic worm in the middle of the tube before rigging.  The hover rig lead diameter is much smaller than the inside diameter of the tube so fit is an issue without the extra plastic.  

 

If you don't care about the spiral, rig it on the back of a normal weedless jig like a flipping jig without the skirt (got the idea from James Watson).  This rigging style has caught me some good fish this year and is my go to with fishing this profile of bait on a power fishing flipping/heavy cover setup.

 

Go Cyclones!

[Ohioguy25]

2 hours ago, Munkin said:

So here are some I poured on some size 2 wacky rig hooks I had to bend from 30 to 60 degrees. Mustad 91768 hook maybe a little too long? Do-It hook looks like it would work. This is a 2.75" Bite Rite tube for a size reference. Both hooks can be poured in 1/8 and 3/16oz cavities but the Do-It hook does not fit anything bigger.

 

Allen

Can you link me to this?

[Munkin]

2 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Can you link me to this?

What are you looking for?

 

Allen

[Ohioguy25]

7 minutes ago, Munkin said:

What are you looking for?

 

Allen

Whacky jig heads

[Munkin]

3 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Whacky jig heads

Wackie Head Jig Molds (do-itmolds.com)

 

Ballhead wacky head mold.

 

Tapered Tube Skirt Jig - Sz: 1/8, 3/16, 1/4, 5/16, 3/8 - Hk: 410 or 413 - Collar: None (do-itmolds.com)

 

The one right above is what I used to pour the heads pictured.

 

Allen

[Ohioguy25]

6 minutes ago, Munkin said:

Wackie Head Jig Molds (do-itmolds.com)

 

Ballhead wacky head mold.

 

Tapered Tube Skirt Jig - Sz: 1/8, 3/16, 1/4, 5/16, 3/8 - Hk: 410 or 413 - Collar: None (do-itmolds.com)

 

The one right above is what I used to pour the heads pictured.

 

Allen

Oh crud so I have to pour them myself?

[Munkin]

1 hour ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Oh crud so I have to pour them myself?

 

I can make you some if it's OK with Glenn? I will make them for cost plus actual shipping.

 

Allen

[RRocket]

3 minutes ago, Munkin said:

 

I can make you some if it's OK with Glenn? I will make them for cost plus actual shipping.

 

Allen

Classy.

[snowplow]

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Wacky_Weedless_Jig_Head_4pk/descpage-VMCWWJ.html?from=gshop&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsaqzBhDdARIsAK2gqnffy5-Cw6hGOrKOKYq74XdNsRF45_0tRhtm0Qrg-nBQnvp1QJn0bUAaAlYpEALw_wcB

 

These are what you need! Just caught a 4# of it a couple days ago. I break off the weed guard and stupid rig it. I just leave the point inside the tube of it is soft like a Berkeley or gitzit. 🤙

[Ohioguy25]

Those will fit a 2.75” coffee tube?

[Munkin]

On 6/14/2024 at 3:07 PM, Ohioguy25 said:

Those will fit a 2.75” coffee tube?

 

Not sure? I don't have any of those tubes. The tube in the picture is a 2.75" Bite Rite tube.

 

Allen

[Ohioguy25]

On 6/15/2024 at 11:26 PM, Munkin said:

 

Not sure? I don't have any of those tubes. The tube in the picture is a 2.75" Bite Rite tube.

 

Allen

Sweet, ya I tried these over the weekend and they work but the large ball head creates a sort of bulbous, irregular shaped head that I’m not sure I’m crazy about. I don’t suppose they make one like you have made with a tube head?

 

[Munkin]

On 6/17/2024 at 11:15 AM, Ohioguy25 said:

Sweet, ya I tried these over the weekend and they work but the large ball head creates a sort of bulbous, irregular shaped head that I’m not sure I’m crazy about. I don’t suppose they make one like you have made with a tube head?

 

 

Send me a message and I will send you some heads to try. If they work I can give you all the information needed for someone to make them locally for you. The mold can only make 1/8 and 3/16oz so let me know what weight.

 

Allen