Dealing with a crabby boss..

[slonezp]

Stress from the holidays, maybe family issues, maybe his boss told him he needs to tighten the ship. If it happens once, could be a fluke. Momma didn't give him any last night. Family member passed away. Etc.

More than once, it needs to be dealt with in an adult manor. If you and he have been cordial up until now, something changed.

 

I'm very fortunate I don't have that issue. I work alone. All I have to do is be profitable. If I talk to my boss or the owner of the company more than a few times a year, I'd best be looking for another job because, I'm doing something wrong.

[slonezp]

13 minutes ago, Koz said:

That sound like it might be an issue for Human Resources.

 

Years ago I had a hotel owner chew me out a little bit in our kitchen with one of the line cooks present. When he finished, I asked him to come to my office. I told him that he could chew me out all he wanted or he could even fire me, but it was inappropriate to do that in front of my team.

 

The owner actually started crying and apologized, then went to the line cook and apologized. He was right about what needed to be corrected in the kitchen, but he made a mistake and went about it the wrong way. It happens. I forgave him and it was over, done with, gone.

Human resources is a funny thing. I was a tradesman forced to work in the corporate world, due to injury. I had never heard of Human Resources before. I have always had a problem with authority.

 

The above is kind of funny because, being legally disabled, Corporate America is afraid to touch me. I got away with a lot, for no other reason than it was a game to me. Mind you, I go along with the plan. I'm a loyal employee until I am crossed. 

 

I currently work for a large, small business. The owner of the company is a few years my junior. We've had some discussions that would offend many. When we get into these conversations, he always says "This is why I'm not in charge of HR"

[VolFan]

I would ask him directly if he needs you to come in and then make a decision on that without all the feels involved.  Do the job, don’t do the job. It’s a job, not a therapy group. That’s what Off Topic is for. I got no time for dramafeels at work.

[DitchPanda]

1 hour ago, VolFan said:

I would ask him directly if he needs you to come in and then make a decision on that without all the feels involved.  Do the job, don’t do the job. It’s a job, not a therapy group. That’s what Off Topic is for. I got no time for dramafeels at work.

 Yes its a job..but he's paying me for my service to the company not so he has somebody to treat like sh#$ whenever he's in a bad mood. I'm not easily offended, I'm no snowflake and ill take an azz chewing when its deserved...but not when its undeserved and not in front of a group of people im trying to lead. He wouldn't like it if I undermined his authority in front of his direct reports.

But then again there is alot of truth in what your saying. I mean I guess what he says doesn't really matter in less of course he fires me. Outside of that I still have a job to do and they are still paying me to do it. If he really bothers me I can quit and find a new job..plenty of them out there.

[GreenPig]

10 hours ago, Kirt Howe said:

Since this is out of character for him (you said you always got along pretty well), I would try asking him what is going on in his life. assuming you are close enough to talk to him about personal matters.   Could be problems at home (divorce, illness in family, problems with the kids, money problems). Any of those things could result in the behavior you mentioned. Could be he could use someone to talk to.

I agree

[VolFan]

You nailed it at the end. Managers’ job lives and dies on their people doing their job. 

[Crankin4Bass]

5 hours ago, slonezp said:

Stress from the holidays, maybe family issues, maybe his boss told him he needs to tighten the ship. If it happens once, could be a fluke. Momma didn't give him any last night. Family member passed away. Etc.

More than once, it needs to be dealt with in an adult manor. If you and he have been cordial up until now, something changed.

 

I'm very fortunate I don't have that issue. I work alone. All I have to do is be profitable. If I talk to my boss or the owner of the company more than a few times a year, I'd best be looking for another job because, I'm doing something wrong.

That sounds like an awesome job! What do you do?

[12poundbass]

7 hours ago, Crankin4Bass said:

That sounds like an awesome job! What do you do?

He’s a proctologist 

[TnRiver46]

28 minutes ago, 12poundbass said:

He’s a proctologist 

[DitchPanda]

2 hours ago, 12poundbass said:

He’s a proctologist 

So then its just like my job..he's dealing with an A hole

[TOXIC]

Another thing you forgot to mention……aside from the obviously poor management style, did you deserve the azz chewing?  If so then you have -0- grounds to buck a manager.  He’s the manager.  He has the authority.  Just because you didn’t like the way he handled it doesn’t give you the right or obligation to be confrontational.  There are a lot of different management styles.  You have a responsibility as his subordinate to perform to his expectations.  How he manages is not your concern.  It is what it is.  Don’t like it, then transfer to a different area, become the manager or find another job.  I’m not trying to come off as an ahole but I have been on both sides of this situation.  You need to accept that you are not equal to a manager.  He may be learning how to manage as well but he is in his position for a reason.  It bothers me that a lot of workplaces have become more concerned with tiptoeing around sensitive employees and issues rather than getting a job done.  It’s a good thing I am retired now even though I had a lot of employees tell me through the years that I was the best boss they ever had.  

[DitchPanda]

1 hour ago, TOXIC said:

Another thing you forgot to mention……aside from the obviously poor management style, did you deserve the azz chewing?  If so then you have -0- grounds to buck a manager.  He’s the manager.  He has the authority.  Just because you didn’t like the way he handled it doesn’t give you the right or obligation to be confrontational.  There are a lot of different management styles.  You have a responsibility as his subordinate to perform to his expectations.  How he manages is not your concern.  It is what it is.  Don’t like it, then transfer to a different area, become the manager or find another job.  I’m not trying to come off as an ahole but I have been on both sides of this situation.  You need to accept that you are not equal to a manager.  He may be learning how to manage as well but he is in his position for a reason.  It bothers me that a lot of workplaces have become more concerned with tiptoeing around sensitive employees and issues rather than getting a job done.  It’s a good thing I am retired now even though I had a lot of employees tell me through the years that I was the best boss they ever had.  

 Well I actually already mentioned above that I will gladly take a#$ chewing when its deserved but not when its undeserved. Another thing I said is if you implement rules you have to hold yourself to them or you can't hold others to them. I feel like some of you guys feel that if your the boss the rules don't apply to you. One of our rules is we have to address everybody with respect and we aren't allowed to use profanity..that morning he came in and asked me: why wasn't the F ing plant running last night and what the F happened between 4-7. If you think your job title makes you immune from accountability of your actions your incorrect.

 Oh and how he manages isn't my concern? Whatever you say. In my opinion its everybody's concern: the people who work for him..the people he answers to..and the company in general. You think it doesn't matter to them if he runs the best people off? Our sister plant is 45 minutes from us..about 5 years ago they experienced horrible turnover and when they found out it was management related corporate came in and fired the GM, Plant manager and Ops manager. Now that said I don't think he deserves to lose his job...but I think he should stop being an as$%&-+.

 My final point in this deal is its not just my opinion  that he was out of line. This happened on a Tuesday when my supervisor was gone..on Friday when he was back the other 2 guys that were in the room told him that the way I was talked to was unacceptable. That day he did the same thing to my supervisor and he told our GM that if he gets talked to like that again he's walking..then our GM had a one on one with the guy in question.

[VolFan]

Are you an Oklahoma fan by chance? ?

[DitchPanda]

33 minutes ago, VolFan said:

Are you an Oklahoma fan by chance? ?

I don't get it

[VolFan]

You’re probably not reading the College Football thread….

[DitchPanda]

I am not

[TnRiver46]

I think it’s finally time to start your own ethanol facility. I know where to get all the supplies you need 

[DitchPanda]

1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said:

I think it’s finally time to start your own ethanol facility. I know where to get all the supplies you need 

Ha..yeah that's pretty high tech!

[TnRiver46]

20 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

Ha..yeah that's pretty high tech!

Gotta have the hi temp chinking to hold it together, next level stuff. Technology developed around 1800 or so? 

[DitchPanda]

4 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Gotta have the hi temp chinking to hold it together, next level stuff. Technology developed around 1800 or so? 

Our still is a 5 story stainless steel column..the discharge pump is capable of pumping 300 gallons a minute. 

[TnRiver46]

33 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

Our still is a 5 story stainless steel column..the discharge pump is capable of pumping 300 gallons a minute. 

Holy smokes. I’m guessing that much  goes into gasoline? What a waste of good whiskey 

[DitchPanda]

22 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Holy smokes. I’m guessing that much  goes into gasoline? What a waste of good whiskey 

Yeah we make fuel grade Ethanol. We are distilling for volume not for flavor.

Our company has 32 plants..as a group we can produce 3 billion gallons of Ethanol a year.

[Way north bass guy]

27 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

Yeah we make fuel grade Ethanol. We are distilling for volume not for flavor.

Our company has 32 plants..as a group we can produce 3 billion gallons of Ethanol a year.

Man, just think of all the old outboard fuel lines that would wreck in a year ?

[TnRiver46]

24 minutes ago, Way north bass guy said:

Man, just think of all the old outboard fuel lines that would wreck in a year ?

No ethanol in the boat! I wouldn’t put it in my truck either if I could afford it 

[Way north bass guy]

58 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

No ethanol in the boat! I wouldn’t put it in my truck either if I could afford it 

Same here. I’ve owned my boat since brand new 5 years ago and it’s only drank non ethanol, and will as long as I own it, same with my snowmobiles and all other small engines I own.