spinning rod for bigger baits

[islandbass]

On 11/15/2020 at 10:14 AM, jbsoonerfan said:

A 4000 size reel and an 8' rod? What are you fishing for Jonah?

That’s practically standard fair (with the rod actually being a bit on the short side) for targeting salmon and steelhead in my area.  I’ve had a salmon spool my 200 curado. I wish I had a 4000 reel during that fight, lol. 
 

To the OP, I think in your heart only you know what will suit your needs. One thing I like about spinning rigs is the descent of the lure with the bail open as opposed to having to pull line off with a casting rod. Not a complaint, but an observation. 

[J Francho]

8 hours ago, islandbass said:

That’s practically standard fair (with the rod actually being a bit on the short side) for targeting salmon and steelhead in my area.

Yep, that's short, lol. I start at 11', and have a 13' and 15' rigs for mudsharks.

[jbsoonerfan]

8 hours ago, islandbass said:

That’s practically standard fair (with the rod actually being a bit on the short side) for targeting salmon and steelhead in my area.  I’ve had a salmon spool my 200 curado. I wish I had a 4000 reel during that fight, lol. 
 

To the OP, I think in your heart only you know what will suit your needs. One thing I like about spinning rigs is the descent of the lure with the bail open as opposed to having to pull line off with a casting rod. Not a complaint, but an observation. 

Sorry, that's my fault. I always assume people are talking about Bass Fishing since this is Bass Resource and in the Bass Fishing section. I don't have to deal with those "other species" so I don't really think about them when choosing Bass Fishing gear. If I were targeting salmon or steelhead then I guess I could see the need for a much larger rod and reel, but for the average 2 lb Bass I failed to see the need. 

[J Francho]

Many target smallies in current using the same gear.

[islandbass]

2 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Sorry, that's my fault. I always assume people are talking about Bass Fishing since this is Bass Resource and in the Bass Fishing section. I don't have to deal with those "other species" so I don't really think about them when choosing Bass Fishing gear. If I were targeting salmon or steelhead then I guess I could see the need for a much larger rod and reel, but for the average 2 lb Bass I failed to see the need. 

It’s all perspective I suppose. I’ve noticed seeing a trend in seeing bass rods getting insanely longer in what I think is “too long” for what I would deem bass rod length, but what do I know, lol?

if there’s a demand I suppose such rods will be made. 
 

2 hours ago, J Francho said:

Many target smallies in current using the same gear.

We don’t have smallies in rivers near me, but rivers and current I think are partially what drives the need such lengths. Either that or these Pac NW salmonid chasers are compensating for other  “length” issues, lol. 

[J Francho]

The length keeps the line off the water for less mending.

[Boomstick]

On 11/14/2020 at 9:13 PM, dstrauss13 said:

my plan was to use 40 lbs braid and a 4000 reel, but i can change either of those to fit the needs of the reel. fwiw, 99% of time i’ll be hooking something 10 lbs or less.

You can probably run 40lb braid on a 2500 reel just fine. I'd think you'd be running 65lb with a massive 4000 sized reel to be honest.

 

My girlfriend couldn't learn a baitcaster and got frustrated trying, so a couple years back I got her a Tatula 7'1" MH/F spinning rod with a Ballistic LT the 2500D model that I got new for $135 on ebay (great reel). I've ran 30lb and 40lb braid on that, it holds maybe 90 yards of 40# with a little backing line.

[zell_pop1]

Instead of custom why not St Croix Mojo Inshore 7'11" H 3/4 -3 oz lures?

[WRB]

Suggesting inshore spinning rods based on lure weight without any experience using these rods may not be helpful.

JF mentioned the handles are oversized not to mention very long from his experience fishing these rods. 
My experience is the same and will add these rods are uncomfortable  to cast, the guides too big poorly spaced, the blank not suited for the application.

Matt Neman of Irod sells his blanks to rod makers, the 8” heavy ideally suits the OP’s application imo.

Tom

 

[J Francho]

15 minutes ago, WRB said:

JF mentioned the handles are oversized not to mention very long from his experience fishing these rods. 

I was speaking about musky rods.  Inshore rods are generally about the same as bass rods with full grips, just higher power.  I've set quite a few people with inshore spinning rods for use frogging for people that for whatever reason needed to use spinning.  A 5000 series reel handles 40-50# braid well.  I recommend a reel with a full aluminum frame.

[Frezzy]

What’s your budget?  I just picked up a Century Weapon in 8’ rated 1-3oz for throwing hudd 68s, glides up to 2.5oz, Spro Rats and 7” slammers.  Incredibly light and sensitive rod.  Moderate fast action.  It’s paired with a Stella 4000, 20lb braid with a long flouro leader (12-15lb).
 

Im a bank angler fishing a large very clear deep reservoir (no boats of any kind allowed).  Nothing is more important to me than casting distance which is why I go spinning.

 

 

[dstrauss13]

yeah i’m torn between 3000 and 4000 for reel size and certainly i can play with line test weight. my thinking was that the larger reel and line might be needed to match the heavier lures.

 

why custom over musky or heavy inshore? i don’t know! how would the heavy inshores and/or muskie spinning rods perform in these applications? that’s the real question. i have only ever used bass rods.

[Michigander]

I have a few 4000 and a few 3000 reels. I'll always pick the 4000 for bigger lures because they are more comfortable to cast with a wider diameter spool.

 

You'll find a lot of 3000 and 4000 reels are the same frame, just different spools and bails. Or 4000-5000. I would pick the lightest frame with the biggest spool. And go all metal, graphite frames aren't what you want. My heavy cover spinning reels are all Penn because they are metal, strong, and not bank account abusers on the "lower end".

 

Can't speak to inshore rods in that lure rating, but musky rods are meant to deal with a lot of water resistance from the big lures like the ultra mega spinners and 6 oz curly tail baits. Based on your original description of lures, you are most likely going to be disappointed by lure action, presentation control, and sensitivity. 

 

I've also punched with my musky rod a few times and yes, it flings the bait out there, but the whole time you're thinking about how this is not the right rod for this technique.

[WRB]

The Stella 4000 IPT line recovered per hand turn is 40”. 40” is ultra high speed for bait casting reels the speed of a 400 size Calculta round reel is 24” popular for swimbaits’.

Flipping doesn’t  use the reel, pitching does but not to work the lure.

Swimbaits are retrieved v e r y  s l o w. 
Most inshore spinning rods have guided 2X the size of fresh water bass rods to gather up 20-25 lb mono line. 3000 size spinning 12 lb mono max.
Tom

[Michigander]

9 minutes ago, WRB said:

The Stella 4000 IPT line recovered per hand turn is 40”. 40” is ultra high speed for bait casting reels the speed of a 400 size Calculta round reel is 24” popular for swimbaits’.

Flipping doesn’t  use the reel, pitching does but not to work the lure.

Swimbaits are retrieved v e r y  s l o w. 
Most inshore spinning rods have guided 2X the size of fresh water bass rods to gather up 20-25 lb mono line. 3000 size spinning 12 lb mono max.
Tom

If OP has Stella money, a custom rod should be a no-brainer. ?

[WRB]

Money doesn’t buy big bass catching success.
Custom SB rod using Irod Or equal blank would be about $300. Reel with under 28 “ IPT ?

Tom