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I'm brand new to the dawia game coming from Shimano. Typically, I buy higher end shimanos like the metanium, aldebaran or Batman but have picked up a new tatula for skipping. My understanding is that dawias are a lot more upgradable and have more parts available to them in the aftermarket arena. For example, I've heard one reviewer stating putting ceramic bearings made their tatulas performance more like steez's reels. Are there a lot of ways to change this reel and if so what do you guys prefer ? Different handles, bearings, spools, color accents, knobs? Is there a way to make it a tad bit lighter overall with something like a handle change. I appreciate any info from you dawia guys.  

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4 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

Bearings I go /w ZPI SIC for spool bearings. 

handle bearings I put boca SS so each knob has 2 bearings. 

color accents you can get from hedgehog and the tackletrap.

Same as above for knobs.

If I swap out to a CF handle, I go /w the RCS Daiwa, ZPI, or basszone when I can find them. You'll pay a premium for these and I generally only put them on Morethan and Steez variants. Not gonna spend much coin tricking out a sub 200$ reel when my handles cost 100+. I will polish all the internals I find necessary and swap out spool bearings if needed though. 

spool options for tatula variants are limited relative to whats available in the zillion/steez+ reels due to the free floating design. 

You can go the cheap route for a CF handle on ebay/ali express. Spool speed bearings/ray's/DIY are all the same exact mass produced chinese CF handle that will cost you around 25-30$ on aliexpress. It's a decent handle. 

First thing to do to that tatula is crack it open and relubricate the gears. New Daiwas are dry more often than not. 

Thank you 

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I've got to look into that Shimano Batman.  I'll bet that thing flies.  :lol1:

 

Can't help much with Daiwa aftermarket parts even though I own more Daiwas than any other brand.  I don't work on my reels.  I have the drag upgraded to Carbontex when I send one in for cleaning.  If getting one supertuned, I always get the bearings upgraded...whether they need it or not.  I like me to be the limiting factor.  Just starting to change spools.  This is one place where you can change the personality of the reel.

 

I have bought a few that the previous owner tricked out, tuned, upgraded bearings, changed handles, changed spools, etc.  Usually not all those changes to the same reel.  :smile1:  Have had the worm gear changed, faster gear set installed, inductor tuned.

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1 hour ago, iabass8 said:

 

First thing to do to that tatula is crack it open and relubricate the gears. New Daiwas are dry more often than not. 

^this

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On 10/20/2020 at 7:33 PM, iabass8 said:

Bearings I go /w ZPI SIC for spool bearings. 

handle bearings I put boca SS so each knob has 2 bearings. 

color accents you can get from hedgehog and the tackletrap.

Same as above for knobs.

If I swap out to a CF handle, I go /w the RCS Daiwa, ZPI, or basszone when I can find them. You'll pay a premium for these and I generally only put them on Morethan and Steez variants. Not gonna spend much coin tricking out a sub 200$ reel when my handles cost 100+. I will polish all the internals I find necessary and swap out spool bearings if needed though. 

spool options for tatula variants are limited relative to whats available in the zillion/steez+ reels due to the free floating design. 

You can go the cheap route for a CF handle on ebay/ali express. Spool speed bearings/ray's/DIY are all the same exact mass produced chinese CF handle that will cost you around 25-30$ on aliexpress. It's a decent handle. 

First thing to do to that tatula is crack it open and relubricate the gears. New Daiwas are dry more often than not. 

Are those bearings you mentioned for the alphas and the sw tw 103? If so which one do I need, on the ZPL website it shows 2 reels daiwa and shimano, and a part number for each, when I look at tackle trap it shows several different bearing sets , so somewhat confused. 

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7 minutes ago, frenchy said:

Are those bearings you mentioned for the alphas and the sw tw 103? If so which one do I need, on the ZPL website it shows 2 reels daiwa and shimano, and a part number for each, when I look at tackle trap it shows several different bearing sets , so somewhat confused. 

which alphas specifically?

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I haven't swapped the bearings in mine, but I have heard if you put in the bearings from a Steez SV reel, it starts to feel like a Steez SV.


To clarify, I am not sure that this is true and he wasn't trying to justify his wife maybe making him sell his Steez or whatever.

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12 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I haven't swapped the bearings in mine, but I have heard if you put in the bearings from a Steez SV reel, it starts to feel like a Steez SV.

No

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2 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

No

I should clarify, in terms of smoothness. That's just what I heard from someone with a Steez SV who did it and that's what he said. 

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17 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I should clarify, in terms of smoothness. That's just what I heard from someone with a Steez SV who did it and that's what he said. 

dropping new spool bearings in a tatula isn’t going to make it feel like a steez. You’ll get some added performance but it’s not going to add to the fluidity, tighter tolerances, etc.  Daiwa doesn’t use special spool bearings in their flag ship reels. 

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17 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

dropping new spool bearings in a tatula isn’t going to make it feel like a steez. You’ll get some added performance but it’s not going to add to the fluidity, tighter tolerances, etc.  Daiwa doesn’t use special spool bearings in their flag ship reels. 

Well figures he was full of it. I never tried it, but figured one of these days I might give it a shot and see if it's worth it.

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3 hours ago, iabass8 said:

dropping new spool bearings in a tatula isn’t going to make it feel like a steez. You’ll get some added performance but it’s not going to add to the fluidity, tighter tolerances, etc.  Daiwa doesn’t use special spool bearings in their flag ship reels. 

 

Yes, to me, the benefit of ceramic spool bearings are mostly about maintenance. You don't need to put oil in them, only clean them once every season. Freespin spools may seem fun, but that doesn't bring much to performance improvement.

 

Spool upgrade is a different story. There are a lot of JDM expensive options for Daiwa spools, but the least expensive one, also a quite effective one, is those Chinese Ray's DIY spools.  I quite enjoy their $35~50 long-cast spools on my old Tatulas and Zillions (the bait finesse spools - not so much), night and day difference from the stock heavy spools. 

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By the time you add an upgraded spool, bearings and/or a new handle with cool knobs, you can just get a Steez ($400 JDM) for probably less than the Tatula SV and all the upgrades.   

 

On the other hand, a fully upgraded Tatula would be awesome, especially since it is made just the way you like it. 

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