GTN-NY Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 I have two spinning rods. 13 Fishing Elite Chrome 6’10” ML Lews Speed Stick 6’9” ML When doing dropshot or ned rigs everything just feels mushy. Maybe it’s because they are both ML actions? Can’t really feel hits much especially if around any weeds. With the currant state of not much on the shelf in tackle shops it’s hard to buy something new that I’ll like without touching it. So I need your recommendations so I can just order it from TW. Thanks for your help Quote
kayaking_kev Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 The only one I have experience with is the Fury 702sf. It's rated as a ML, but it's closer to a Medium, IMO. I had a Lew's TP-1 Speed Stick 6'9 ML and it was a lot softer than the Fury 702sf, plus you get a lifetime warranty. 1 Quote
Tatsu Dave Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Dobyns sierra in m/f, need to catch it on sale to get near your price but they are quite a rod. TW sale it would run $136 including shipping. Like mentioned by Kev a Dobyns fury would come in more on your price point however. 1 Quote
Finessegenics Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, GTN said: When doing dropshot or ned rigs everything just feels mushy. Maybe it’s because they are both ML actions? Can’t really feel hits much especially if around any weeds. Feels mushy? What do you mean by that? I don’t think it’s a sensitivity issue with your rods but what is the bottom composition ? If it’s around weeds and soft bottom then I’d say that’s a normal feeling. either way, If youre looking for a new rod in that price range I’d suggest the St Croix Bass X (which is basically just the previous generation of mojo bass with a new paint job) or the Fenwick HMG. Both are quality sticks for the price. Only issue is neither one is available in ML on TW at the moment... 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 The bad thing about paying $100 for a rod is that you get a $100 rod. You already know what it's like to have lower-tier problems. So, you'd probably be better off waiting for a good sale on a better rod, or getting a better rod used through the Flea Market section. jj 4 Quote
ironbjorn Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, kayaking_kev said: The only one I have experience with is the Fury 702sf. It's rated as a ML, but it's closer to a Medium, IMO. I had a Lew's TP-1 Speed Stick 6'9 ML and it was a lot softer than the Fury 702sf, plus you get a lifetime warranty. That's strange. I think the 702sf feels more like a L. 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 I know nothing about the rods you already have. But willing to bet a St. Croix Premiere, Mojo or Bass X will do what you are trying to do. ML or Med. w/ fast or Xfast actions. 1 Quote
Ben77 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Spend a little more and get a Dobyns Sierra they are outstanding rods. 2 Quote
GTN-NY Posted October 14, 2020 Author Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Finessegenics said: Feels mushy? What do you mean by that? I don’t think it’s a sensitivity issue with your rods but what is the bottom composition ? If it’s around weeds and soft bottom then I’d say that’s a normal feeling. Mushy - when I tighten the line to feel for hits the tip just bends and can’t really feel anything it is mud bottom though Quote
Super User Bankc Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 I'd check out a Cabela's or Bass Pro. They have some good rods for around $100 in their house brands. They can be especially good bargains when you find one on sale. Their Johnny Morris line is pretty nice. If nothing else, it would give you a chance to get your hands on a bunch of rods and see what's out there. Maybe hit one up now to find out what you want, and then wait for a sale if need be. A lot of my local shops have been out of stock of most of the their gear all summer. But now that the weather has turned colder, they're getting their stock back in. Check around the first week of the month. At my local BPS, they've been pretty full of their house brand inventory around then, even during the summer when everything else was hard to find. Maybe even call up ahead of time if it's a long drive to make sure before you're not wasting your time. You might just need a stiffer rod. I find that softer rods don't transmit minor vibrations as well. It seems to me that the formula for best sensitivity is a lightweight and stout blank with fast action. Also, try this. Next time you're out in the weeds, try pulling the lure back with just the tip of your index finder straight on the line. The idea being that with the rod taken out of the equation, you'll get a sense for how much information your rods aren't passing on. If you don't notice a lot of difference in feel, then it's not a rod problem. It's probably just an issue of either your line or the bottom composition and softness of the vegatation eating all of the vibrations before they make it back to you. I learned to fish back in the days of fiberglass rods, mono line, and round reels, so we often kept a finger on the line during retrieve to feel what was going on below the water. It's a bit annoying to do it today with all of the advancements in technology that we have available, and I don't know how you'd do it with spinning gear, but little techniques like that did teach me that a good angler knows how to make their gear work for them and a bad angler only knows how to blame their gear. 2 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, GTN said: Mushy - when I tighten the line to feel for hits the top just bends and can’t really feel anything it is mud bottom though Sounds like those rods would be better suited for lighter crankbaits. 1 Quote
GTN-NY Posted October 14, 2020 Author Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spankey said: Sounds like those rods would be better suited for lighter crankbaits. The Lews I like for wacky worms. The 13 Fishing I bought without knowing what I wanted/needed. I’ve been out of fishing for almost 20 years and everything has changed 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, GTN said: The Lews I like for wacky worms. The 13 Fishing I bought without knowing what I wanted/needed. I’ve been out of fishing for almost 20 years and everything has changed Don’t make things out to be more than they are. Don’t make things more expensive than they have to be either. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Benithebass said: Spend a little more and get a Dobyns Sierra they are outstanding rods. Better yet...a Poison Adrena. Quote
Ben77 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said: Better yet...a Poison Adrena. Now that's a different animal ? Quote
GTN-NY Posted October 14, 2020 Author Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, new2BC4bass said: Better yet...a Poison Adrena. Yeah that’s a little over the $100 lol Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 The 13 Omen Black 3 @$120 has a really nice 36T blank. Its light, sensitive and I really like the actions. The only thing im not 2 crazy about the black 3s is the eyes they use on the spinning models. They work good, but they look like older style Fujis. The iROD Fiber, Ive never used this rod but there are too many people who love them to be sub par. 3 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 At $ 99.99 this is another option. I have 3 of these rods, cept in baitcaters. Read the reviews on TW.. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/catpage-DAIWAROD.html?from=basres 2 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 Or, I might add, this as well. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Procyon_Spinning_Rods/descpage-PYS.html I bought a Procyon 661MXS for finesse (mostly WR and weightless TR). I was surprised at the sensitivity. It’s a nice rod for the $$. Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 I recommend Don Iovino Major Craft finnese spinning rod ideally suited for finesse presentations. Tom 1 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, WRB said: I recommend Don Iovino Major Craft finnese spinning rod ideally suited for finesse presentations. Tom I don’t see that model on their website. I found Don Iovino casting rods at TW, but that was it. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 1:45 PM, BrianMDTX said: I don’t see that model on their website. I found Don Iovino casting rods at TW, but that was it. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Major_Craft_Spinning_Rods/catpage-MCSR.html Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 I believe Don's signature rods are only sold through TW. Don worked with MJ to get the rod the action/power he desired and includes a hook hanger for example. His rod 6'8" medium fast spinning rodisxwell balanced and good lure feedback. I use both Don's finesse spinning rod and Splash-it casting rod. Tom Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said: https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Major_Craft_Spinning_Rods/catpage-MCSR.html I saw those spinning rods, but they don’t say Don Iovino like the casting rods do. Quote
GTN-NY Posted October 14, 2020 Author Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, WRB said: I recommend Don Iovino Major Craft finnese spinning rod ideally suited for finesse presentations. Tom The MS-1 or Nanoace model? Quote
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