Chet C Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 about the Daiwa Fuego LT 2500. some say that are light and smooth, been thinking of one, but reading about flex, should i take that with a grain a salt, i would like to get the Stradic CI4+, still could go that route. but i like saving a buck if it's worth it chet Quote
Super User JustJames Posted September 4, 2020 Super User Posted September 4, 2020 You are a lucky man, all I ever get is a $50 bass pro gift card lol. Talk about the reel, what do you have to compare? Or what do you have now?. If compare to Daiwa LT line up like Tatula LT or Fuego LT, for me it worth it to get Zaion Rotor from Ballistic FW. The Tatula LT is one smooth reel but Ballistic FW is smooth with lower inertia. But since it is your BD why don’t add another 30-50 bucks and get a Luvias LT with MQ body. But another reel to consider is Shimano Vanford (ci4+) at about the same price, you get USA warranty, MGL rotor with counter balance, MM gear and Long Stroke Spool. I have old CI4 not plus and my Tatula LT is way smoother but I really wanna give this Vanford a try. This is the level I would spend for one good spinning reel. Quote
Chet C Posted September 4, 2020 Author Posted September 4, 2020 hi big UN since i changed my thoughts on the reel i reposted, after reading about the reel, i see there are cons about the bail spool, too much line twist, so i edited the topic to the Daiwa fuego LT 2500 i am reading good things about it, with one exception on frame flex, any thoughts or i just may go for the stradic ci4plus chet Quote
Super User JustJames Posted September 4, 2020 Super User Posted September 4, 2020 Line twisted? I don’t see any problem. I’m using super line, braid and nanofil. Line twisted will happen with any spinning reels, but as long as you know how to prevent and fix it there shouldn’t be any problem. Do not whip cast spinning reel and always stop the line before lure hit water. Fuego using different material compare to Zaion on Tatula and Ballistic. I’ve heard it too especially on bigger size 3000 where ppl use it for bigger fish or saltwater. I have cheap Daiwa LT, Legalis and Exceler 1000/2000 size and never experienced frame flex. Stradic CI4+ is discontinued, so it is gonna be harder to find. If you have to pay at full price, I’d rather wait for Vanford (upgrade version of CI4+). I think some already get a shipment on Vanford. Quote
Big Hands Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I have 5 Daiwa spinning reels. 2 @ Revros LT 2500-XH, Legalis LT 2500D-XH, Fuego LT 2000S-XH, and a Kage LT 2000D-XH. I can flex the Kage more so than the Lagalis and Revros. I have only had the Fuego out once, but caught 10 bass up to close to three pounds with it (and the Kage rig) that afternoon and didn't particularly notice the flex, probably because I wasn't looking for it and it if it was there (like the Kage) it didn't impede my ability to land the fish (and they seemed especially cranky that day). I think Bass_Fishing_Socal does a good job breaking down the 'reel' differences Pun intended) at different price points. If there was one person here I would want to chat with about the Daiwa spinning reels, he would be that guy. He knows them pretty well. I guess from there, it's up to you to figure out what you're willing to spend and what you're willing to compromise on to spend less than it would cost to be ballin' with a Ballistic or a Vanford if you don't want to pony up for one of them. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted September 4, 2020 Super User Posted September 4, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 11:12 AM, Big Hands said: .If there was one person here I would want to chat with about the Daiwa spinning reels, he would be that guy. He knows them pretty well. Whoa whoa whoa, just so you know I’m a shimano Fanboys. My next spinning reel gonna be Vanford for sure but don’t know if I should get 2000 to replace my old CI4 or 500 to replace Sahara 750. Last night I took out my old faithful CI4 fishing caught 2 but the reel felt like crap. That is a problem of me using those d..n Daiwas for quite awhile lol. 1 Quote
Big Hands Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Looks like you caught your PB according to your profile. . . . ? 1 Quote
Randy Price Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I bought a Daiwa Fuego LT 2500 earlier this year and have been very happy with it. I'm a Shimano Stradic fanboy but have to say I like it. I bought mine used (LNIB) at a pawnshop for $ 50.00 so I don't know if I'd pay full price for it. For $ 100.00 I think you can get the Nasci which is a great reel too. The Daiwa isn't as smooth as my Shimano's bit I do like the heavier gauge bail. I don't like the fact that Daiwa's are either made in China or Vietnam. Hard to buy from a country that was shooting at my Dad in '66. Quote
Finessegenics Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I don’t mean to hijack this thread but since were talking about the Fuego LT, I heard some of them have problems with uneven line lay. Have any of you guys experienced any of this? Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted September 4, 2020 Super User Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Finessegenics said: I don’t mean to hijack this thread but since were talking about the Fuego LT, I heard some of them have problems with uneven line lay. Have any of you guys experienced any of this? A few folks complained about the uneven line lay. It's an easy fix, takes maybe 1 min. to do. Although haven't heard of any recent problems with the line lay thing. 1 Quote
Deeare Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I’m a big shimano guy. I have 8 or so Stradics, 4 ci4s....BUT I bought a couple diawa jdm reels last year or so and I like them better than the ci4. I’d give the diawa jdm a shot!!!! the reel model i got is the diawa em-ms and it was $70 cheaper than the ci4. Quote
Tizi Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I have the Fuego LT in 2500 and 3000 size. I have noticed no flexing, but I haven't caught anything over 3.5 lbs on the 3000 size yet. As to uneven line lay, both of mine seem to work fine, the line is same at the top and bottom. The package contained washers to correct that if it is a problem. I have been very happy with both. 1 Quote
Big Hands Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 With regards to line lay, this has been debated here on BR recently, and there may be evidence that the reel was designed so that the line would be wound so it appears larger at the top of the spool to allegedly aid in casting. At any rate, Daiwa does provide spacers you can install under the spool to customize the line lay to be the way you like it. Quote
Chet C Posted September 5, 2020 Author Posted September 5, 2020 Tackle warehouse email saying labor day sale 15% off. gonna check maybe will get a deal on the Daiwa fuego lt 2500 xh chet 1 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted September 6, 2020 Super User Posted September 6, 2020 I have two 3000 LT Procyons, two 3000 Ballistics ( one EX and one LT ) and a Fuego LT 3000. I have zero issues with flex, line twist, line lay or anything else. The Fuego LT has been a great performer. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted September 6, 2020 Super User Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 6:24 PM, Deeare said: I’m a big shimano guy. I have 8 or so Stradics, 4 ci4s....BUT I bought a couple diawa jdm reels last year or so and I like them better than the ci4. I’d give the diawa jdm a shot!!!! the reel model i got is the diawa em-ms and it was $70 cheaper than the ci4. Thanks for the tip on the EM-MS. Just ordered a 16 EM MS 2508PE-H from ebay for $105 with tax and free shipping. This thread worked out good for me as I am going to be selling a couple of my older Tournament SS reels and need replacements. Maybe I should have ordered two! Quote
Hower08 Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 I have one. First year it was fine middle of this year it started flexing so bad it's uncomfortable to use.first time it flexed on me it was so bad it felt like the reel was loose on the rod while fighting about a 15 inch large. Do not waste your money, spend it elsewhere with a company that strives to build the best available. If you want. Pm me your number and I can send you a video of how bad this reel twists on the stem Quote
Fishin Dad Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Columbia Craw said: I have two 3000 LT Procyons, two 3000 Ballistics ( one EX and one LT ) and a Fuego LT 3000. I have zero issues with flex, line twist, line lay or anything else. The Fuego LT has been a great performer. Hey Columbia Craw, I have a Fuego and it has worked fine for me. I have caught bass over 5 lbs. on it and bigger pike with no issues. Since you have 3 styles of Daiwa, I have a couple questions. What does the Procyon offer over the Fuego and how do you like it? Is the Ballistic worth the extra cost? Thanks Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) I was a hardcore Shimano fan when I bough my first fuego LT. I still love Shimano, but now I prefer the feel of Daiwas spinners over Shimano. I bought a fuego LT 2500 right when they came out. I have beat the tar out of the reel, fishing it 5 days a week in fresh water to light surf fishing for blues and stripers to about 5lbs. I also use it on my boat flounder fishing. It takes some pressure to get a 6lb fluke off the bottom and I haven't noticed any stem flex at all. I have ballistics and yeah they feel better but the difference isn't night and day IMO. You can get them a fuego on ebay for 75 or 80. At that price point I don't think they can be beat. If your thinking about spending more money take a hard look at a Luvias. You can get a JDM Luvias for about 250. I was a hardcore Shimano fan when I bough my first LT. I still love Shimano, but now I prefer the feel of Daiwas spinning reels over Shimano. Edited September 6, 2020 by Rusty_Shackleford Posted by accident before i was done writing it Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 The fuego has a lower quality carbon composite frame, the procyon has the better quality carbon composite ZAION frame which is lighter and stronger. Im pretty sure the procyon has the aluminum digi gear compared to the fuegos zinc gear. Daiwa really did a good job with the zinc gears. There isn't as much difference between the zinc and aluminum gears when the reels are new. My fuego has held up surprisingly well dealing with salt and sand. The procyon is so really close to being a tatula. Like I said I think the procyon has an aluminum gear, but if it does have a zinc gear that would be the only difference between the tatula and procyon. They are the same weight same size. What the fuego has that the procyon and tatula don't have is the mag seal. It helps keep water and debris from getting up under the rotor and working into the AR clutch. It makes the reel somewhat splash resistant, but it does wear out depending on how much you use the reel. If you want mag seal that's where the ballistic comes into play. The ballistic is essentially a tatula with mag seal. 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 8:28 AM, Chet Cognigni said: Tackle warehouse email saying labor day sale 15% off. gonna check maybe will get a deal on the Daiwa fuego lt 2500 xh chet Look on ebay, you can get them for about $80 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 I have a first generation CI4, had to retire it some years ago. Started making noises, premature bail trip, the bail is bent so it feels out of balance and the line lay is rough but man I love that reel. I liked the EVA knob wish they had kept it or offered it aftermarket. Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted September 6, 2020 Super User Posted September 6, 2020 Sent Fishin Dad a PM 1 Quote
mrpao Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 I'm a shimano fan boy but I think daiwa spinning reels look so much better. To me, most of shimano's current line up is ugly and heavy compared to my daiwas. I am a fan of the smaller daiwa LT reels. I only have 1000 and 2000 size reels in both shimano and daiwa. My reels with the lowest start up inertia are my two stradic 1000ci4+ 5.0 gear ratio. Turning their handles require little effort. My tatula 2000 LT is also very easy to turn. I want to try some JDM daiwas but I'm not crazy about their spool sizes. It seems most reels from Japan are shallow spool versions. I don't want a deep spool but don't want a shallow spool either. I wish more reels came with a medium depth spool. 1 Quote
K1500 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Hower08 said: I have one. First year it was fine middle of this year it started flexing so bad it's uncomfortable to use.first time it flexed on me it was so bad it felt like the reel was loose on the rod while fighting about a 15 inch large. Do not waste your money, spend it elsewhere with a company that strives to build the best available. If you want. Pm me your number and I can send you a video of how bad this reel twists on the stem I have 2 Fuego LT 2500’s and this has been my experience to a T. I also have a Daiwa BG that is solid as a rock. For $10 and a few ounces of weight more I would go with the BG every time. I also had a mag shield seal appear to fail on the Fuego. Quote
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