trolling motor Need battery/trolling motor connection help

[Jordy420]

Someone let me know if this is connected properly and will work and if not what is wrong with it? I dont want to ruin anything so im seeking help first. Note there is no power to the yakpower system and idk if that is needed or not for the plug in to function I was told it shouldn't matter as long as u have a battery for the trolling motor. Any help greatly appreciated ?!

 

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[MN Fisher]

From what I'm seeing, you've got both the negative and positive from the TM connected to the positive on the battery - that's going to create a short that can damage anything connected to the power. Negative (black) from the TM should connect to the negative terminal on the battery - where the negative for the Yak power system is connected.

[Jordy420]

The - and + connections of the trolling motor are both connected to the fuse box or circuit breaker side by side. That box is only connected to the red wire which is split in the middle of the grey plug in and black wire connecting to neg terminal on other side. The red of tm is on brass and black is on the silver posts of fuse. 

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[MN Fisher]

That's what I'm saying - you don't connect negative and positive to just the positive. Move the negative of the TM to the negative of the battery. Otherwise at the very least, you're going to blow fuse(s)/circuit breaker(s).

[haggard]

Doesn't look right. If you're uncertain of how to make the connections, it's well worth finding someone who does (even paying someone who does). Setting this up properly should be relatively quick and easy. It's hard to tell what's what from the photos, not knowing anything about how the yak power distribution is set up. With the amount of energy stored in the battery, a simple wrong connection can kill equipment fast, or start a fire fast.

 

If you haven't planned on it already, when you're done setting it up, put that battery in a proper battery box. The exposed plus and minus terminals are like magnets for dropped metallic objects and you'll sure know it when they hit  

[Jordy420]

51 minutes ago, haggard said:

Doesn't look right. If you're uncertain of how to make the connections, it's well worth finding someone who does (even paying someone who does). Setting this up properly should be relatively quick and easy. It's hard to tell what's what from the photos, not knowing anything about how the yak power distribution is set up. With the amount of energy stored in the battery, a simple wrong connection can kill equipment fast, or start a fire fast.

 

If you haven't planned on it already, when you're done setting it up, put that battery in a proper battery box. The exposed plus and minus terminals are like magnets for dropped metallic objects and you'll sure know it when they hit  

yeah i had planned on it. Battery is pretty big so ill need to take measurements and make sure the box i get will fit. All the places I could pay to do it are booked for 2-3 weeks. I just don't understand why ascend would provide a pdf manual for every kayak they make except the 133x. 

[haggard]

Yeah looks like a Group 27. I think the box sizes are standardized so you should be able to pick up a "group 27" box at the usual stores for less than $20.

[redmexican5081]

TM wiring:  Positive terminal on the battery to one side of the circuit breaker, from the other terminal on the circuit breaker to the positive lead for the TM if you are protecting the TM with the breaker. Negative lead of the TM to the negative terminal on the battery.

Yak wiring: Positive terminal on the battery to one side of a circuit breaker(different from TM breaker), from the other terminal on the circuit breaker to the positive lead for the yak plug. Negative lead of the yak plug to the negative terminal on the battery.

Don't get the two systems wired together through the same breaker, the TM needs much higher amperage than you will want running through your yak system wires.

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, redmexican5081 said:

Don't get the two systems wired together through the same breaker, the TM needs much higher amperage than you will want running through your yak system wires.

Ya - looking over the info on the Ascend Yak Power System - they specifically state to NOT run your TM through it, it's only designed for 15amp max, and even my 30# Endura can pull twice that.

 

[moguy1973]

51 minutes ago, redmexican5081 said:

TM wiring:  Positive terminal on the battery to one side of the circuit breaker, from the other terminal on the circuit breaker to the positive lead for the TM if you are protecting the TM with the breaker. Negative lead of the TM to the negative terminal on the battery.

Yak wiring: Positive terminal on the battery to one side of a circuit breaker(different from TM breaker), from the other terminal on the circuit breaker to the positive lead for the yak plug. Negative lead of the yak plug to the negative terminal on the battery.

Don't get the two systems wired together through the same breaker, the TM needs much higher amperage than you will want running through your yak system wires.

This is what you want to do.  The negative wire from the TM you have going to the other side of the breaker needs to go directly to the negative post of the battery.  You'll need another 50A breaker and another short piece of positive wire, and hook the yakpower positive like you have the TM positive hooked up.

[MN Fisher]

Just now, moguy1973 said:

This is what you want to do.  The negative wire from the TM you have going to the other side of the breaker needs to go directly to the negative post of the battery.  You'll need another 50A breaker and another short piece of positive wire, and hook the yakpower positive like you have the TM positive hooked up.

Actually - get a MinnKota Power Center box for the battery, Hook the positive from both the Yak System and the TM to the positive on the box, same with the negative. The box includes a 50amp breaker connected to the outer terminals. That way the TM is not trying to run through the 15amp breaker of the Yak System. Keeping the positive of the TM connected to the Yak System will probably trip the breaker every time you go higher than speed 2 on the TM, shutting down power to everything on the Yak.