Maintaining finger contact on line with a Tatula T-wing

[txchaser]

I'm having a tough time making good contact with my index finger under the line on reels with the tatula TWS - it lifts the line a little so it often comes out of the channel. 

 

Any tips?

[Hammer 4]

I usually wait till the bait hits the water. If need be, I'll strip line from the reel manually, once the bait is in the water, my finger is glued to the line, in most cases..

[txchaser]

How are you gluing your finger to the line without pushing the line up out of the guide channel?

[Hammer 4]

I'm just letting the line sort of slide/graze over my finger. To be honest, I never paid that much attention to it, it's just 2nd nature for me. I won't be fishing until the latter part of next week, otherwise I'd go out tomorrow, and report back.

[riverbasser]

When the spool is engaged the large opening of the T is up. You would have to be pushing the line up significantly for that to happen. I own almost all daiwa's and have never had an issue with what you are experiancing.

[txchaser]

Huh. Maybe I'm just trying to get too much tension on it vs just barely touching it.

[Sam]

Can you send a photo for us to see what you are doing with the line and your finger?

[Southcoast Bassin]

If the Tatula’s had a different mechanism than the Twing they would be the absolute perfect reel.

They cast incredible 

Unfortunately if you fish with any kind of leader ..the knot gets caught in the Twing.

 

I ended up switching over to all Metanium and Chronarch Shimano’s.

 

 

 

[Smokinal]

33 minutes ago, CapeCodSox said:

Unfortunately if you fish with any kind of leader ..the knot gets caught in the Twing.

 

 

 

 

 

All of my setups are braid to leader. I keep my leader just short enough so the knot does not enter the reel; it's best to never have the knot enter a reel actually.

 

 

To OP, see my post in this thread:

 

[Southcoast Bassin]

LOL ... Yes The long and short is ... yes your right it’s best if the knot is not on your reel.

 but guess what ...

1 -The leader constantly  going through your guides is Worse ?

 

 2-if your leader is that short you will be re tying it 3to 4 times a day especially if you catching good fish in any kind of cover. (That’s a major pain)

 

3-This is why you don’t see the pro’s  throwing any Tatula’s.

 

Like I said ... if they would lose that T-wing mechanism Tatula would be the absolute perfect reel.

 

If given the opportunity throw a Shimano Metanium for a couple of days...

 I promise you will forget about Diawa

 

If you don’t want to spend the money.. the  Shimano Chronarch can be bought for $200 and is probably the best bang for your buck in a $200 reel.

 

 

 

[waymont]

58 minutes ago, CapeCodSox said:

This is why you don’t see the pro’s  throwing any Tatula’s

What about these guys:

Randy Howell, Brent Ehrler, Ish Monroe, Takahiro Omori, Seth Feider and Cody Meyer

[Junger]

I just pinch the line down with my thumb and index to keep it in the T-wing channel.

[Hewhospeaksmuchbull]

I put finger on top of line at reel.

 

I also don't have any problems with leader not passing though T-wing. Honestly I cant see how leader knot would get stuck, that opening is bigger that any I have seen on any reel.

[JustJames]

50 minutes ago, Hewhospeaksmuchbull said:

I put finger on top of line at reel.

 

I also don't have any problems with leader not passing though T-wing. Honestly I cant see how leader knot would get stuck, that opening is bigger that any I have seen on any reel.

I did the same thing, lay my index finger on top of the line sometime even with shimano reel.

he must be using 20lb leader with 50lb braid.

[Southcoast Bassin]

Strictly finesse stuff 

[Russ E]

It is pretty easy to pull the line out of the channel of the t-wing,  if you are running the line over your finger.

The easiest way to tell if this happens is,look at the reel after a long cast. the line will not be level on the reel.

it will usually have more on the left side(if you are holding the reel with your left hand).

As others have said, I lay my finger on top of the line with a t-wing reel.

[JediAmoeba]

5 hours ago, CapeCodSox said:

If the Tatula’s had a different mechanism than the Twing they would be the absolute perfect reel.

Get a fuego.  Same tatula reelcwithout the t-wing. 

[Russ E]

7 minutes ago, JediAmoeba said:

Get a fuego.  Same tatula reelcwithout the t-wing. 

I use a fuego for Flukes. It is close to a ct. I actually think my ct's are smoother.

Definitely not the same as an sv tatula.

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, Russ E said:

I use a fuego for Flukes. It is close to a ct

Tatula CT differences from Fuego CT

 

T-Wing system

Bearings in the handle-knobs

 

That's it - otherwise they're identical.

[MickD]

5 hours ago, CapeCodSox said:

the knot gets caught in the Twing.

I don't have that problem because I don't believe there is any need to have the leader as long as necessary to reach the reel.  But if you want a long leader and are having trouble with the knot, learn the FG knot.

 

[Russ E]

9 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Tatula CT differences from Fuego CT

 

T-Wing system

Bearings in the handle-knobs

 

That's it - otherwise they're identical.

I own 2 sv's, 4 ct's, and 2 fuegos. they all get heavy use.

the sv is a pretty big step above both of them.

In my hands, the ct casts farther and feels smoother on the retreive than the fuego. If that is because of the t-wing and the handle bearings , so be it. I do notice a difference.

[txchaser]

Fiddled with it today, and maybe I'm overthinking it - I can get my finger under the line without causing a problem, but it's not my fingertip, is more like the side of the finger. Far easier when the rod is tucked properly. I really wanted to do it on moving baits but that seems like pro-mode, seems pretty straightforward on bottom contact. 

[Bluebasser86]

On 2/13/2020 at 7:48 AM, waymont said:

What about these guys:

Randy Howell, Brent Ehrler, Ish Monroe, Takahiro Omori, Seth Feider and Cody Meyer

Bunch of nobodies ?

 

I believe Andy Montgomery is Daiwa too.

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, txchaser said:

Fiddled with it today, and maybe I'm overthinking it - I can get my finger under the line without causing a problem, but it's not my fingertip, is more like the side of the finger. Far easier when the rod is tucked properly. I really wanted to do it on moving baits but that seems like pro-mode, seems pretty straightforward on bottom contact. 

If you like this platform, but the T wing is ultimately problematic for you, the Fuego CT is the next best thing. The line flows out of the Tat CT's T wing better and you can feel that especially on heavier braid, but absolute distance compared to the Fuego is marginal, IMO. The CT feels a tad more free when pitching, but the Fuego is just fine here too. The parts, other than the T wing and it's associated parts, are identical to the CT. The gear set, pinion and drive are interchangeable as is the roller clutch(ARB), and that includes the Tat SV. They're the same part #s. The difference is bearing count as MN Fisher said. I haven't torn down a CT Type R, so I can't include that reel here, but where the Tat SV is different, other than the spool, is in the bearing quality as it uses CRBBs for the spool. Also, all of the bearings on '17 my Tat SV have retainer clips for the shields where the Fuego's and CT's shields are pressed in types. For whatever reason (?), both of my Fuego's are smoother than my Tat SV on the retrieve with similar use and servicing. I have a new gear set on the way for the SV. One of my Fuegos is on a frog rod and has been beaten mercilessly in heavy cover and it still feels as good as new.