Birdman2136 Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 I’ve been using Rat L Traps. I’m currently looking for a lipless that has that shimmy on the fall I see and read people talking about. Certain YouTube channels recommend the LV500 and other high end lures. Anyone have any insight on more budget friendly options because the Rat L Trap really doesn’t do this. Thanks guys. Quote
Russ E Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Strike king red eye shad does it. Rat l trap and cotton cordell super spot are good for constant retrieve. Reed eye shad is my favorite for hopping and jigging. It is about the same Price as a Rat l trap here is a demonstration from hook and look. 8 Quote
The Bassman Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Strike King Red Eye Shad and Rapala Rippin' Rap. 2 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted February 13, 2019 Super User Posted February 13, 2019 Strike King Red Eye Shad has a shimmy to it, but I have better luck fishing with Super Spots. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 13, 2019 Super User Posted February 13, 2019 The slack line flutter accounts for at least 75 % of the bass I catch on the RES. A-Jay 3 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 13, 2019 Super User Posted February 13, 2019 I do a lot of fishing from a flat bottomed jon boat and can attest that the Red Eye Shad shimmy's and clicks as it is falling . It can be heard . Worm fishing a Red Eye Shad is one of my favorite techniques . Quote
Birdman2136 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 Seems like a popular vote on the Red Eye Shad. Thanks guys Quote
Smokinal Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Odd; I've always been, and always will be, a Bill Lewis guy. 2 falls ago, I was out for one of our last days and just brutilizing 'em with a red craw trap on rock piles. I go to cast, get a line pinch, a nick in my leader snaps, my last trap goes flying 1/4 mile. After kicking, screaming and crying like a baby for 17 minutes, I regain my composure, dig around the boat, find a red craw RES and think, "well, everyone says these are great"; I was wrong. The bite dropped to a fraction of what I had with an original trap. Hey, if it works for you, have at em. I'll stick to a Bill Lewis trap Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 13, 2019 Global Moderator Posted February 13, 2019 All the pics I posted of fish this weekend were caught jigging a ripping rap in chrome color. All the red eye shads I have ever bought exploded in my tackle box Quote
Birdman2136 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Smokinal said: Odd; I've always been, and always will be, a Bill Lewis guy. 2 falls ago, I was out for one of our last days and just brutilizing 'em with a red craw trap on rock piles. I go to cast, get a line pinch, a nick in my leader snaps, my last trap goes flying 1/4 mile. After kicking, screaming and crying like a baby for 17 minutes, I regain my composure, dig around the boat, find a red craw RES and think, "well, everyone says these are great"; I was wrong. The bite dropped to a fraction of what I had with an original trap. Hey, if it works for you, have at em. I'll stick to a Bill Lewis trap I’ll always use my Rat L Trap for burning around. Swamp Craw and Mean Green are my jam! 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted February 13, 2019 Super User Posted February 13, 2019 The Red Eye Shad for sure but the Yo Zuri Rattle N Vibe as been great for me as well. My favorite is the one you want a substitute for > the LV500. I have caught tons of fish on this lure. The Chrome Black is my favorite color. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 13, 2019 Global Moderator Posted February 13, 2019 RES is the most popular. I've been experimenting with a Yo-Zuri 3DR that is supposed to do the same. The way fish eat it on the fall it would seem to be another good option. 1 Quote
fin Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 I don't know if you can really classify the RES as budget-priced though. Personally, I like the Academy lipless cranks, which are about half the price. The same thing that makes RES flutter also makes them run sideways at high speed. It's got a little bit too much flutter for my taste. I think every brand has its own good points. I never met a lipless I didn't like. 1 Quote
Birdman2136 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 The main thing I was looking for is the ability to fish a lipless crank like a jig. I'm interested in trying this technique and want a budget friendly option for trying it out. Anything under 10 dollar is much more budget friendly to me compared to the LV prices. So far it looks like I'll give the RES and Yo Zuri and try. Still open to more options. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 The Red Eye Shad is my favorite as well. I do have a new one I'm going to try this year and it's from Berkley, I thinks it's called the Warpig. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 13, 2019 Super User Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: The Red Eye Shad is my favorite as well. I do have a new one I'm going to try this year and it's from Berkley, I thinks it's called the Warpig. I have a new warpig too and anxious to see how it falls . Quote
Birdman2136 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, scaleface said: I have a new warpig too and anxious to see how it falls . I looked at those... Seems to be a bit of a copy of the Megabass Vibration X or whatever its called, which supposedly has a awesome action when paused. Quote
Bruce424 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 The warpig sinks like a rock at half ounce. Dont notice a shimmy at all. Lucky craft omari lipless does though. Good luck finding any though. 1 Quote
deadadrift89 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Another vote for Sk Red Eye Shad Quote
Tizi Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 RES and LV500. The other one is a Sebile Flatt Shad, it is no longer produced. The red craw is killer on the Columbia River for SMB. 1 Quote
primetime Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 I agree with just about everyone, the Red Eye Shad is a perfect lipless crank for letting it fall, or worming it etc. I also catch fish with the Rattle trap and Spots letting them fall and flutter on slack line, but based on what looks better on video camera, I agree that the RES is hard to beat. I was surprised nobody mentioned the Spro Aruku Shad which is only $7.99 and is weighted in front so it stands upright on the bottom. I use 1/2 ounce for just about everything, but some days a 1/4 oz will work better. If you want to invest a few extra dollars, I would have a one knocker & silent version of any lipless crank to switch it up and get a few extra fish. Every company makes a one knocker now, but the Xcalibur XR50 now the Booyah Hard knocker is a great lure for the action on the fall as well. Others that are good & have had success with..Yozuri Vibe, Jackall TN (Expensive but works great), and the Ima Rockin Vibe...Tackle Warehouse had them on clearance a few years ago at $4. The profile, action is fantastic and they flat out catch fish. Some of the more expensive lures are worth it at times. I would never not have a Live Target Golden shiner lipless crank, and I am not a live Target fan....But when it works, it really works. This is a great article which gets into detail...Obviously no need to overcomplicate it, but the different sounds kind of matter at times, sizes...http://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/lipless-crankbait-breakthroughs/154613 Hope that helps. Lipless Cranks are one of the best ways to catch fish any time of year on any lake imo. 1 Quote
Birdman2136 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 8:08 AM, primetime said: I agree with just about everyone, the Red Eye Shad is a perfect lipless crank for letting it fall, or worming it etc. I also catch fish with the Rattle trap and Spots letting them fall and flutter on slack line, but based on what looks better on video camera, I agree that the RES is hard to beat. I was surprised nobody mentioned the Spro Aruku Shad which is only $7.99 and is weighted in front so it stands upright on the bottom. I use 1/2 ounce for just about everything, but some days a 1/4 oz will work better. If you want to invest a few extra dollars, I would have a one knocker & silent version of any lipless crank to switch it up and get a few extra fish. Every company makes a one knocker now, but the Xcalibur XR50 now the Booyah Hard knocker is a great lure for the action on the fall as well. Others that are good & have had success with..Yozuri Vibe, Jackall TN (Expensive but works great), and the Ima Rockin Vibe...Tackle Warehouse had them on clearance a few years ago at $4. The profile, action is fantastic and they flat out catch fish. Some of the more expensive lures are worth it at times. I would never not have a Live Target Golden shiner lipless crank, and I am not a live Target fan....But when it works, it really works. This is a great article which gets into detail...Obviously no need to overcomplicate it, but the different sounds kind of matter at times, sizes...http://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/lipless-crankbait-breakthroughs/154613 Hope that helps. Lipless Cranks are one of the best ways to catch fish any time of year on any lake imo. Thanks for the detailed post. The Aruku Shad had been on I list I’ll definitely try one out. Quote
GoneFishingLTN Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 6:04 PM, A-Jay said: The slack line flutter accounts for at least 75 % of the bass I catch on the RES. A-Jay What weights do you use for 2 taps and when do you use these? The two taps Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 17, 2019 Super User Posted February 17, 2019 The first silent RES i purchased has a loose weight making it a one knocker . It is my favorite one . 1 Quote
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