pauldconyers Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Just wanted to see if anyone has any experience with this product? Just hype or does it really work? What exactly does it "do" for your line and your lure? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 20, 2019 Global Moderator Posted January 20, 2019 Been useing it for years. A few squirts the night before and makes the line more manageable. I use it on braid also Mike 1 Quote
The Bassman Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I use it a lot. Really don't notice a big effect on braid but it does a great job at freeing up window blind cords. So it must be for real. 3 Quote
Mjmj Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I use it. It works well enough to notice a difference. For braid I use Braid Aid. Quote
pauldconyers Posted January 20, 2019 Author Posted January 20, 2019 I guess my question is what does it "do" for the line? Does it soften it and reduce memory or something? Do you spray it on the line when it is on the reel? Just once or every time out? Can it damage the reel? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 20, 2019 Global Moderator Posted January 20, 2019 Forgot to mention.... Use it while spooling also. Every dozen or so turns either spray as you spool or wet an old nylon and run the line through. Useing a non absorbent rag you use a lot less. Mike 4 minutes ago, pauldconyers said: I guess my question is what does it "do" for the line? Does it soften it and reduce memory or something? Do you spray it on the line when it is on the reel? Just once or every time out? Can it damage the reel? Yes it does all that. Some guys use it on the reel. and no it does no damage or leave a slick or sticky film as others do. 2 Quote
pauldconyers Posted January 20, 2019 Author Posted January 20, 2019 What does it do for your lure? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 I apply Line & Lure conditioner as I spool and then again before EVERY outing. Quote
onenutinthewater Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 It leaves a trail of fairy dust behind your lure which the fish just love! Dont know about on lures but it does work well for taming mono. Quote
pauldconyers Posted January 20, 2019 Author Posted January 20, 2019 Does this mainly "help" mono? Do much for fluero or hybrid line? Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 It's good stuff. I have found it works better on mono and better on certain FC lines than others. For me it makes lines more manageable and it does increase casting distance. I do question how long it lasts. Sometimes, it may only a few casts. Sometimes, it's all day. I think it may have to do with how much sun exposure your line gets through out the day. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 I use the stuff for non-braided lines but I'm also curious what exactly it does. I've heard it's very safe stuff chemically but that makes me wonder what is actually in it that can interact enough with the line to make a difference. Quote
punch Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I think line spray is 100% placebo. I've talked with a few FLW pro's "off the record" about the topic and they all say the same thing.. buy quality braid/floro and don't bother with the conditioner spray. It's doesn't do anything significant. If you buy good line, you wont find any advantages with spraying it with any of the various line conditioners. I've used it & not used it on combos that are very similar with the same line and notice zero difference myself. 46 minutes ago, FishTank said: It's good stuff. I have found it works better on mono and better on certain FC lines than others. For me it makes lines more manageable and it does increase casting distance. I do question how long it lasts. Sometimes, it may only a few casts. Sometimes, it's all day. I think it may have to do with how much sun exposure your line gets through out the day. The weather may be affecting the line more-so than the spray. Infact that's more likely. 1 1 Quote
Russ E Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 It does work on flourocarbon and copoly line. one of the huge advantages I see is it reduces line memory. I use it often for both. not sure what benefits it would give braid. KVD is the only conditioner I use. have not seen many benefits from other brands. 17 minutes ago, punch said: If you buy good line, you wont find any advantages with spraying it with any of the various line conditioners. all flourocarbon has some memory. I use it on Tatsu and sunline sniper. it does make a difference. Quote
punch Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Russ E said: It does work on flourocarbon and copoly line. one of the huge advantages I see is it reduces line memory. I use it often for both. not sure what benefits it would give braid. KVD is the only conditioner I use. have not seen many benefits from other brands. all flourocarbon has some memory. I use it on Tatsu and sunline sniper. it does make a difference. I spooled several rods all with 16LB FC Sniper, and I used the conditioner on a few of the reels.. a few I didn't. I observed the line memory to be no different between the reels after a weekend of use. I guess it's YMMV but people in the industry seem to think it's pretty much snake oil. Quote
matbellon3 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Helps with line memory on some of the cheaper fluorocarbons but not so much high end fluorocarbon 1 Quote
LonnieP Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I bought a bottle to try a while back, I couldn't see any difference even after soaking the line the night before, on copoly and fluorocarbon. Maybe it's because I use fairly limp,good handling lines? I doubt I'll ever buy it again. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 Yes, I use it. On all lines but braid. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, Russ E said: I use it on Tatsu and sunline sniper. it does make a difference. Agreed! 1 Quote
Dirtyeggroll Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, roadwarrior said: before EVERY outing. I actually make sure to use it AFTER every outing so my line is ready to go if I forget to do it the night before. 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 I think this stuff works it's best when the line is at the end of its life or is just bad from the get go. If the line you use is soft and limp from the get go, then this stuff maybe pointless. For me, it works but if I have good quality line and it's new then what's the point. Also, I have seen this several times with this stuff, guys make two mistakes with it > 1) They don't shake the bottle. 2) They store it above or below room temp (if you store it on a boat or in your car, it seems to break down over time). Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 I find it most useful with non-braided lines that have been sitting on a reel for a while without being used. It helps deal with the initial memory that comes with lines being tightly wrapped on a reel spool. If it's fresh line that you just spooled up, memory shouldn't be that bad to begin with so I don't know how much difference it will make. 2 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted January 20, 2019 Super User Posted January 20, 2019 I use YoZuri Hybrid on my cranking rods and KVD L&L does make a huge difference....definitely NOT a placebo. 1 1 Quote
MittenMouth Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I saw bass pro had a L&L in their spring catalog- anyone know if this is the same as KVD? I don’t think I would switch formulas after using KVD and seeing how well it works, especially on FC Quote
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