demonjd22 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Hey guys, with Christmas coming up I've decided to treat myself to a new spinning rod reel combo. I previously had a Pflueger Patriarch and loved how light it was on a St. Croix Legend Elite (until they ended up in the lake on a night fishing kayak trip . So the question is since they're only $30 apart in price, which would you guys recommend, the Patriarch or Stradic CI4? I've never used a Shimano but have heard great things. I've noticed that the Patriarch is an ounce lighter but I'm guessing one ounce wouldn't make or break or me. I'm leaning toward the Shimano if only because I feel like with a new rod it's kind of like a new start? I will be pairing it with a St Croix Legend Tournament Walleye Rod 6'6 ML in that sexy cobalt color lol if that makes a difference. Help a guy out with his decision and thanks in advance! =) Quote
Super User Darren. Posted December 11, 2017 Super User Posted December 11, 2017 I assume you mean the CI4+, right? CI4 is previous model with the round handle grips. While I haven't used a Patriarch, I have and own a CI4+ 1000. By far, my favorite reel among all my Stradics. Smooth, light, powerful. Quote
Stephen B Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 I would go with the new Diawa Tatula LT over the Stradic CI4. Both are great reels, but it's just my preference. Plus, you will save some money. But if you are set on the CI4+ and Patriarch, I would pick the Shimano. Quote
kschultz76 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Stradic hands down over anything else. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted December 11, 2017 Super User Posted December 11, 2017 Stradic is an outstanding reel and is all i own for spinning reels at this point. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted December 11, 2017 Super User Posted December 11, 2017 Tough call. I own both. Both are smooth as silk. I use the Pflueger more because it's light as a feather. The Shimano might get the nod because it holds more line. I was almost spooling the Pflueger out last week tossing a 3/4 oz blade bait looking for SMB. If possible, mount each to the rod you're using them on and go with your gut. Quote
Oklahoma Mike Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 I’ve owned both and prefer the pflueger. In fact I’ve sold off all but one of my shimano spinning reels and replaced them with pfluegers. Quote
Djohn Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Love the Pflueger Patriarch. I own many reels but I find myself rearching for it more than any other. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted December 11, 2017 Super User Posted December 11, 2017 It appears of those that have owned both (really the only opinions that count), the Patriarch gets the nod... and still you're leaning Shimano. oe Quote
onenutinthewater Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 I currently have 5 stradics and have never been impressed with them- I know why the heck keep buying them? Kinda stuck with them since every time one has an issue they get sent back to shimano and replaced with a new one... Quote
Super User MickD Posted December 11, 2017 Super User Posted December 11, 2017 i have a number of the regular Stradics, different models, size 4000. I like them, but I also have a Partiarch and like it also. As above, both are very smooth, both have been reliable. If I were to buy again, price within $30, and the Patriarch an oz lighter, I'd buy it. Quote
HookRz Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 The closest Patriarch by weight to the 2500 Ci4 (6.7 oz.) is the 6.2 oz. model. The big difference I see is the slow 5.1 gear ratio. The Patriarch picks up 28' per handle turn. The Stradic picks up 35". In fact, if you really want light, the smaller 5.6 oz 1000 size picks up 31" of line P/T. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 12, 2017 Super User Posted December 12, 2017 Get the Stradic. Quote
kschultz76 Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 I’ve had Pfleugers and a couple Stradic FJ and a couple Stradic CI4+. I much much prefer the line management features of the Shimanos, less line twist and tangles by far. I also think xship really makes a difference in spinning reels. Quote
FishKilla Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 I have 2 patriarchs. A good fishing buddy has the Shimano. We switch off often. I prefer the pfluger. I've never been happy with my Shimano spinning reels. Quote
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