FritzLikesToFish Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 So I'm new to baitcasters. After doing some research I have seen people mention fluorocarbon with no braid backing will cause the line to slip on the spool. My two reels set up with fluorocarbon have definitely slipped when setting a hook. Yet I always hear people say they go straight fluorocarbon on their reels. Do I need a backing or am I just doing something wrong. I set the hook, the spool just slips and let's line out. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted October 14, 2017 Super User Posted October 14, 2017 A piece of electrical tape on your knot when you spool up the reel prevents line slip. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted October 14, 2017 Super User Posted October 14, 2017 There might be something wrong with you reel. What kind of reel is this? How much line do you have left on spool when you set the hook? Is this new, use? Try to jerk your line with you hand and see if spool still let the line out? I suspect some thing wrong with your anti reverse bearing. Quote
CroakHunter Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Is your drag tight? I run straight braid, fluoro, and mono on my reels and have never had one slip. Tighten your drag star on the handle side of your baitcaster and see if the "slippage" stops. If this doesn't help, put electrical tape on your knot. No need for backing of you use the tape method Quote
Tim Kelly Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 I think you have mis-read previous advice. Braid will slip on a spool if it has no mono or fluoro backing, or a bit of tape to keep it still. If you've got straight fluoro on your spool it shouldn't slip, so it might be a problem with your reels drag mechanism. Have you tried tightening the star wheel behind the reel handle to tighten the drag? 2 1 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Being the cheap skate I am, all my reels (spinning and bait cast) have inexpensive 10lb mono on them for backing to save on the expense of good line. I use a little Berkley line counter to balance the backing amount to leave the right amount of space for the good stuff. The backing stays on for ever. Quote
FritzLikesToFish Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Tim Kelly said: I think you have mis-read previous advice. Braid will slip on a spool if it has no mono or fluoro backing, or a bit of tape to keep it still. If you've got straight fluoro on your spool it shouldn't slip, so it might be a problem with your reels drag mechanism. Have you tried tightening the star wheel behind the reel handle to tighten the drag? That's what I was confused about. Braid is known to slip so I don't know why I found articles saying to use braid as backing. Drag is set right. The reel it happens alot on is the Abu Garcia Silvermax which is a cheap reel but it has happened a few times with my daiwa fuego ct too. I don't think my fuego has done it since I changed my line out though. The Abu Garcia has done it with full spool and about half empty spool. Maybe it's just the cheap reel. Both reels are new. After reading some of this I think the two factors are a cheap reel and a me possibly doing a poor job of spooling my fuego the first time. Quote
Tim Kelly Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 The idea behind braid as a backing on baitcasters is that it's lighter than mono, or certainly fluoro, so it gives a marginal improvement in the reels casting as there's fractionally less start up inertia, but the braid backing still needs to be secured to the spool with some mono or tape. It's one of those slightly daft ideas that fills an article or two, and while it is not wrong, is certainly very marginal! Quote
Super User JustJames Posted October 14, 2017 Super User Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, FritzLikesToFish said: That's what I was confused about. Braid is known to slip so I don't know why I found articles saying to use braid as backing. Drag is set right. The reel it happens alot on is the Abu Garcia Silvermax which is a cheap reel but it has happened a few times with my daiwa fuego ct too. I don't think my fuego has done it since I changed my line out though. The Abu Garcia has done it with full spool and about half empty spool. Maybe it's just the cheap reel. Both reels are new. After reading some of this I think the two factors are a cheap reel and a me possibly doing a poor job of spooling my fuego the first time. Maybe your thumb is accidentally press on thumb bar while setting hook. Quote
papajoe222 Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 If you aren't hesitant to open up the reel, I'd venture to say that there is way too much grease on the anti-reverse bearing. It's located in the right side plate and the main shaft goes through it to the reel handle. It should have a very minimal amount of lube on it. Too much allows the one way bearing to slip backwards of some of the less expensive reels. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted October 15, 2017 Super User Posted October 15, 2017 If it is slipping all the time no matter what you do it is something to do with the line on the spool slipping. If it happens occasionally like when you set the hook I would bet it's something with the anti-reverse bearing. Possibly over lubed like @papajoe222 said. Quote
Tim Kelly Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 If the bearing is over lubed then the handle will spin backwards. If the line is slipping and the handle isn't then it's a line or drag issue. 2 Quote
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