Fluorocarbon Questions.

[Spider]

 

 

 

Mr. Spider sir. Buying Seaguar Tatsu is not going to allow you to cast an 1/8 ounce bait with your MHF rod (rated 1/4-3/4 ounce) backlash free. The line isn't the problem, it's your rod. It just doesn't load up enough to cast effectively. I would hate to see you drop $40 on Tatsu, get the same results and feel the BR community misled you.

 

I suggest you use heavier baits on your baitcaster with any line you choose and fish the lighter baits on one of your spinning rods.

I won't blame anyone here if I fail. It's part of the learning curve, and one of the reasons I like fishing so much.

 

It looks like time to break out the spinning gear for the light stuff, and use the bait caster for the bigger stuff.

 

I appreciate all that chimed in.

 

And look forward to that sensitivity test. From what I have read, fluorocarbon is twice as dense as mono which transmits feel better. If this is wrong I apologize.

[Mike L]

 

 

 

And look forward to that sensitivity test. From what I have read, fluorocarbon is twice as dense as mono which transmits feel better. If this is wrong I apologize.

 

Don't know if it's twice as dense, but you are not wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

Mike 

[MickD]

 

 

You know you're not getting off the hook on this one without providing a link to the study/report or some type data and source for those comments 

 

I cannot find the post on this forum, although I believe it was here. Maybe the author will see this string and chime in.  I have a pretty good line test link, will give it below.  I think I was, as I think most people do, equating sensitivity with stretch.  Both mono and FC stretch about the same as a percentage of the line length, with mono being toward the high end of the distribution, so you might say it stretches more than FC.  But you'll find FC's that stretch more than monos and vice versa.  The data is for stretch at breaking point, which really is irrelevant, but I did find an article that measured stretch at low forces and it concluded the same thing: difference is small, but the FC distribution is a little higher than mono.  

 

But I don't believe there is an objective "sensitivity" test.  If FC seems more sensitive than mono, then use it.  I also doubt if there is an objective test for "pain in the ass," but to me, FC is a bigger pain in the ass with little offsetting advantage (for a line, not leader).

 

In the article below there is discussion on sensitivity, and what the author thinks the differences in material characteristics (like density) have on perceived sensitivity, but it's opinion and judgment again.  It could be that if I used really stiff rods for finesse fishing I might sense a sensitivity difference between mono and FC, but my heaviest power rod is a medium heavy mega bass that I use for baitcasting for salmon and pike, and sensitivity is not an issue there.

 

I conclude with the comment that if sensitivity is really a priority, then the obvious solution is braid.  And braid casts pretty well too.

 

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/gallery/gear/2014/11/line-test#page-11

[Team9nine]

 

 

Don't know if it's twice as dense, but you are not wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

Mike 

 

1.85X +/- .02 depending upon brand specifics, but who's counting 

[WRB]

What is line sensitivity? Vibrations moving up the line through water? Line moving away from you increasing tension, then towards you decreasing tension?

Vibration is a sine wave form that can't travel through water on line because water dampens all vibrations on line, the water is too dense.

Line movements can be felt and detected visually, good example is a deep diving crankbait wobbling back and forth moving the line away from you. If you have slack in the line the movements must move the line enough to take out the slack or there isn't any movement to detect.

Fluorocarbon line has less coeffient of drag going through water so it takes less force to take the slack out of the line to detect movement. Because FC is heavier than nylon, FC line tends to have less bow in the line of equal diameter going through water. Less bow equal shorter distance between you and the lure, less line with less drag allows you to detect movement easier. We feel or see the line move and call that sensitivity.

Tom

[sully420]

You need a cranking rod or a rod that has a slower action to throw baits under 1/4 oz or use spinning gear with floro leader. Dont buy tatsu sniper is the way to go.