rod guides

[tkunk]

For some custom rods, I see quite a few guide options.  Sorted by price from low to high, the list I usually see is standard, SIC, SIC titanium, and torzite insert titanium.

 

Can anyone explain the benefits of moving from cheap guides to expensive ones?  I see that more expensive guides tend to be lighter, but from what I've seen, the total weight savings is less than 0.25 ounces, which doesn't seem like much for a ~5 oz bass rod.

[S Hovanec]

Weight is an advantage.   Corrosion resistance is the biggest benefit of titanium frames.

 

On a 5oz rod, probably no real difference,  but on my 2.85oz and 3.15oz dropshot rods it makes a difference. 

[MickD]

The need for the premium rings for guides is over-rated.  The need for premium rings for tiptops is not.  The need for infinitesimal weight savings is over-rated.  The need for superior corrosion resistance in salt water is not.  I personally don't like the ugly grey color of some lower level rings, and since they are so thick, it's really a problem justifying more costly, more attractive (to me) rings.

 

Often, if one has a requirement for one of the attributes of premium guides, he has to take them all.  For example, no one is going to offer a titanium framed Harloy guide.  If one wants titanium, they have to get the premium ring.

 

Finally, the corrosion resistance of most keepers is terrible, so just spend a couple bucks more and get the REC keepers, or use a REC single foot fly guide for the keeper.  

[tkunk]

Thanks, guys.

 

I plan on using the rod for some saltwater applications, so you'd recommend going with the SIC titanium guides?

[Hogsticker]

I like titanium alconites. Price isn't too bad, keeps things light, and never had issues with alconites. 

[MickD]

2 hours ago, portiabrat said:

Thanks, guys.

 

I plan on using the rod for some saltwater applications, so you'd recommend going with the SIC titanium guides?

You can get titanium alconites.  I think that SIC handles heat better, but not sure they are necessary, exc for tiptop.

[Jeff H]

What about the the Alps Ti framed Zirconium's?  They must be a worthy option too??

[spoonplugger1]

The Alps guides have a superior design that holds the ceramic in the guides, far less chance of shock damage, or losing a ceramic ring.

[.ghoti.]

14 hours ago, Jeff H said:

What about the the Alps Ti framed Zirconium's?  They must be a worthy option too??

 I prefer them, for the recess ring design and for the lower price compared to Fuji.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Guides are like blanks, reels or anything else as in there are diminishing returns as you approach the high end offerings. Whether or not Torzite, Sic or titanium are worth the cost depends on the budget and goals for the build. For a freshwater bass rod the compromise I've settled on is Fuji SS k frame with Alconite rings. Weight, durability and price are all good. Alps are a reasonable choice as well. Rare are the opportunities to do a build with zero constraints of budget, time, availability etc. 

[S Hovanec]

I've said it before, the only reason I build with Ti frames is because I like the color!!  

[MickD]

titanium alloy frames are clearly better for salt than any stainless.  You need to wash your rod and reel after every salt water use regardless of the frame material, but if you screw up, titanium is more forgiving.  the Alps guides are great titanium guides, as are the Fuji's.  But there is another popular brand out there which has titanium alloy frames that are not that strong.

[Big Bait Fishing]

for my rods i use either Alconite or sic when i use Fuji , but i am more than satisfied with Zirconia and Nanolite . i been also using micro guides in Duralite and cannot tell the difference !!. it all comes down to frame height and durability of the frame in my choices . i have been using American Tackle Artus heavy duty micro guides because of the way the Ring-Lock guides protect the ring in the guide .i don't fish salt water with my bass rods so corroision resistance is not a priority .

[tkunk]

Thanks, everyone.  All the info helps a bunch.