Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Super User Posted August 1, 2015 I finally sent my boat of to a professional to get it running and he said he got it running so okay I go pick it up and pay him and all is well. Then the next day I take it to the lake and it 100% runs amazing. Next day I take it out to the lake BOOM dead in the water and won't even try to start up? Now what? Do I take it back to the mechanic and get charged again? Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted August 1, 2015 Super User Posted August 1, 2015 If it is the same problem you shouldn't have to pay twice, but it may be something totally different. Quote
ksboy Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 How old are your batteries?? Could there be a loose wire or a short somewhere? If the mech you took it to is reputable, he should work with you on whatever the problem is, especially if it was something obvious he should have found the first time. Did he give you any idea what it took to get it running in the first place? Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 Its a brand new battery... And not really he said he set the timing, and I know he fixed the starter I don't really know what else he did. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 1, 2015 Global Moderator Posted August 1, 2015 Is it turning over? or not doing anything at all? First two things that come to mind, make sure the battery is hooked up and make sure the kill switch isn't turned off. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 I dont know the difference between starting/cranking/turning-over the big gear looking thingy is spinning when I turn the key lol sorry I'm very ignorant when it comes to engine terminology and the kill switch is correct. Quote
Fun4Me Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I would take it back. I'm not trying to be mean, or offend you, so please don't take it that way, but it doesn't sound like your mechanically inclined enough to try and figure out the problem on your own, beyond some very simple things, which isn't a bad thing or a negative on you as a person, it's just that you could potentially do more damage than good. A couple of things you can check are Battery connections- make sure they are tight and clean Fuel filter/s- If your boat is equipped with them, you may have a clogged one fuses, if your boat has any In general, a motor needs gas and spark/electrical to run. If it turns over but does not start it's missing something in that equation. Now, it could be something as simple as a fuse or relay, but that kind of thing needs to be traced out. You said that the mechanic set the timing and fixed the starter. If the engine turns over I would say the starter is ok. If you just hear a whining sound and the motor doesn't turn over, then it's a starter problem. The fact that he changed the timing could be the problem if he didn't get everything tightened down or something changed with it. The problem could be related to what the mechanic did, or it could be something else. Unless you want to try and trace the problem down yourself, I don;t think you have a choice but to take it back. It might turn out that the problem is something they did while they had it the first time. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 Yeah I definitely ain't gonna be able to fix this thing... I'll get my grandpa to help because he is good with this stuff but I'll probably have to just send it back and cough up some more money somehow... This sucks lol Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted August 1, 2015 Super User Posted August 1, 2015 Cranking/ turning over means the starter is spinning the big gear looking thingy on top of the motor, which is called the flywheel. Won't start means the flywheel is spinning but the motor will not start up and run. I hate to say this, but because of your lack of knowledge, taking it back to the mechanic is about your only option. There are a number of things that can cause one not to start but a basic knowledge of how the motor works is required or you can cause more problems than you fix. Quote
Fun4Me Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 You might get lucky and not be charged if it's something they did wrong. How well do you know this mechanic or place that you took it? You said your grandfather helps you with mechanical things. If he can't find the problem, or if he would be willing to help fix the problem, you can save some money by taking it in and letting them tell you what's wrong with it, then doing the work yourself. 1 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 I don't know him too well. My uncle knows him and he is the one that told me about the guy. Quote
Fun4Me Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 He's probably a good guy if your uncle recommended him. I would take it back and see what they say. Like I said, it could be related to something they did the first time and won't cost you any money. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 1, 2015 Super User Posted August 1, 2015 Often times there are some initial challenges with most fixed up boats to get them running right and this one sounds no different. On the bright side - you have a unique and very valuable situation right in front of you - the opportunity to Learn. If you choose to at the end of this evolution, you'll know exactly what the "starting/cranking/turning-over the big gear looking thingy spinning when you turn the key" IS. As well as How, When & Why it does it. There will be a long list of important pieces of information that further down the road, will undoubted serve you well; especially if you continue to fish from a boat, this one and the next ones. So learn everything about your boat that you can, particularly when in the presence of humans who have been trained in it's repair. The lessons you learn from this experience alone will be something that you reflect upon & talk about your whole life. It's called "experience" and it's how many of us that have been down the road ahead of you, happen to learn it. It's not always easy but it is not something you want to let pass you by. Stick with it & Good Luck. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 Okay wait a minute... I've been fishing since like 7 just using the trolling motor because the weather is just to amazing to pass up and I decided to take a break to try at starting the engine again. I unhooked the fuel line that goes from the tank and hooks to the outside of the engine and thought maybe if I push on the little pin it could free it up if it was stuck or something and I reconnected the line and first try it started up like it was brand new? What's up with that? Quote
nosdog2 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Maybe airlocked the tank? Check the breather and make it allows air to come in as the motor takes out fuel. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 Maybe airlocked the tank? Check the breather and make it allows air to come in as the motor takes out fuel. Yeah that little vent on the fuel tank is open if that's what your talking about. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 1, 2015 I turned it back off then it wouldn't even do anything when I tried to start it again but I wiggled the wires that connect to the gear shifter box where the key is and it started up again. Quote
Fun4Me Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 You're going to have to try and isolate what is causing the problem. If you can get it to not start unless you wiggle the wires all the time then you can be pretty sure you have a problem there. Quote
Scorchx1245 Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Sounds like no spark. Loose wire, check your kills witch wires. I had one come loose and pulled a plug off and checked the spark, which there was none and sat four hours with a power probe and multi meter finally saw a a wire that ran to the kill switch and saw it was undone. Hooked it back up, started like a charm. Quote
Canyon explorer Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 +1 On Battery, loose terminal, or Kill switch. Quote
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