bhoff Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Im looking into getting a new Dobyns Champion rod, mainly for squarebills and medium diving crankbaits but I will also use it for jerkbaits, poppers, lipless and spooks. Im not sure whether to go with a glass or graphite rod. Also could you recommend what power to buy if im only going to be throwing baits up to 1/2-5/8 ounce. Quote
Smokinal Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 If it's going to be as multi-purpose as that, I'd get the graphite. You will have no hook setting power with a glass rod. If it was a crankin stick only, I love my S-Glass rod. It's so soft and handles fish on a treble bait very nice. 1 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted June 20, 2015 Super User Posted June 20, 2015 Due to multi use like above, graphite. Also, I like a graphite fast action for topwaters/jerkbajts so they are more responsive. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted June 20, 2015 Super User Posted June 20, 2015 705 would be my choice based upon weight range noted but if it were 3/16 to a 1/2 I would opt for the 704. I would take the glass for those apps but that's just me. It may just boil down to what you are comfortable with. I fish all of those in the weight ranges you listed on the 705 cb glass fast rod. If you are on the fence call Gary or Rich at Dobyns. They will point you in the right direction. Very helpful guys and nice to boot! Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted June 20, 2015 Super User Posted June 20, 2015 Dobyns 705CB Glass Fast I use it for squarebills and mid divers but have used it for everything you have mentioned. If you haven't done any research on the rod, it has a graphite butt section and top half is glass. It fishes like a traditional fast action rod until you have a fish loaded up. Then it acts as a glass rod. I don't know what the second post in this thread is talking about, it has plenty of power to set the hook. I use upgraded thick EWG trebles on a lot of my square bills and they are always pinned. I would only recommend the graphite if you were ripping grass. The glass can do it, but it can become a chore unless you use braid. 1 Quote
paulrobinson318 Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I have owned one glass rod and since have fished exclusively with graphite.It wasn't a bad rod, I just prefer graphite for some reason. Quote
hatrix Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I would go glass personally. All the lures you have listed and treble lures so hook setting power shouldn't really be a issue. The only problem is if your fishing grass with a lipless. You probably won't have a fast enough tip to clear it the majority of the time. But for very sparse grass or open water I would use a glass over graphite any day. Quote
Missourifishin Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I got a glass rod for cranks, but have ended up using it for just about anything with treble hooks. I would fish any of the lures you mentioned with glass, especially if the cover isn't too heavy. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted June 20, 2015 Super User Posted June 20, 2015 Always glass or a composite for treble hooked lures, hooksets are not an issue. For those lure weight ranges I would go with a MH. Quote
Smokinal Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I will say that I read the OP too quickly and stopped at jerkbaits; thinking he meant a soft jerkbait like a fluke. Having said that, I still wouldn't throw a hard jerkbait, popper or spook on my glass rod. Are we talking about the same type of glass rod here? Mine is the W&M Reese S-Glass rod; a real old school, whippy, heavily paraboloc rod. Would you guys really thow a spook or popper on this bike antenna? I'd lean toward a composite personally. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted June 20, 2015 Super User Posted June 20, 2015 I will say that I read the OP too quickly and stopped at jerkbaits; thinking he meant a soft jerkbait like a fluke. Having said that, I still wouldn't throw a hard jerkbait, popper or spook on my glass rod. Are we talking about the same type of glass rod here? Mine is the W&M Reese S-Glass rod; a real old school, whippy, heavily paraboloc rod. Would you guys really thow a spook or popper on this bike antenna? I'd lean toward a composite personally. Hes asking specifically about tthe dobyns glass rods, not a buggy whip s-glass. Huge difference Quote
Smokinal Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Hes asking specifically about tthe dobyns glass rods, not a buggy whip s-glass. Huge difference Yup, my mistake. Quote
Super User MickD Posted June 23, 2015 Super User Posted June 23, 2015 In my opinion there is no action that a graphite rod cannot have. It's all in the design. Graphite rods will almost invariably be lighter than equivalent action/length/power glass rods. I'm not advocating one over the other, just pointing out a likely difference. Many rods are also blends of different graphites, and they are usually very light as well. Not 100% sure what "blend" means, grahite + glass, two different moduli of graphite? The latter in most cases I expect. As others have mentioned, many prefer slow actions (natural for glass) for trebles since they don't tend to pull trebles out so much, but if a fast action is not too stiff in the tip, it can be fine as well, and fast actions usually can cast a wider range of lure weights easily. One last consideration, if you are going to use the rod for hard jerks, like pointers, and you are fishing early smallmouths, you want to be able to really snap a very aggressive action into the jerk. A really slow/soft action just will not do it. What all this means is that pros have a lot of rods in the boat for different lures/techniques. I have three crank rods, all graphite, two light/slow for surface and some lipless cranks, and one a medium/extra fast for the aggressive twitch technique. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted June 23, 2015 Super User Posted June 23, 2015 I never throw jerkbaits, hard or soft, on glass. For soft you need graphite to set the hook, and for hard you just get better dancing action with a fast rod. 1 Quote
Hogsticker Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 My advice - If you have never fished with a glass rod, try before you buy. I'd only use one for hard pulling deep divers, never a jerkbait. Quote
blckshirt98 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 A glass rod with the soft tip/moderate action will probably work really poorly with the snapping needed for a jerkbait/spook/popper. Should be fine with a lipless crank though. A graphite rod would be the better choice if you need to incorporate all of those techniques into one rod, whereas the glass rod really will only work well with half of those techniques. Quote
hatrix Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 A glass rod will work alright for spooks or poppers as I don't think they require that fast of a snap back in the tip to work. Jerkbaits are a bit of a different story but it's doable. Quote
RB 77 Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 The only thing I like glass rods for is salt water fishing. Even then I have blends and straight graphite for quite a bit of applications. I have a couple of G Loomis "Fiber Blend" Crank Bait for my cranking duties and couldn't be happier. It makes all of that "run-n'-gun" fishing pleasurable for a worm dragger' like me! Quote
*Hank Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Graphite,Iv`e never been a big fan of glass rods. Quote
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