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hey bass resource.sometime this spring i will be getting a deep diving/lipless crankbait setup. I'm willing to pay up to 250$ for the rod. does anyone have any suggestions on which rod i can get? im getting the new Daiwa Zillion TWS 5.5:1 to go along the rod that i am looking for. any comments would be great to put me in the right direction.

thank you

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You are probably going to get quite a large variety of rod recommendations. 

 

For open water lipless baits & medium depth baits I use a 7 to 7'6" MH moderate stick.

 

For shallow lipless baits in & around grass, I use a 7' MH fast rod.

 

And for true Deep baits I use a 7'6" plus MH or H Moderate glass or composite rod.

 

So you may be looking for more than 1 rig here.

 

As for the Brand, it's whatever tickles your fancy & your wallet.

 

A-Jay

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^^What he said. Those are 2 very different baits and, personally, I wouldn't throw those baits on the same rod. For my traps I like my glass rod but for deep divers I like a firmer rod so I'm not working so hard. I couldn't imagine throwng a big billed bait on my glass rod. That's just me though.

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If you're asking for a brand or model, check out the Dobyns Champion and St. Croix avid. Those are two of my favorites. Both are excellent rods that come with an excellent warranty as well.

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I'm not a dobyns fanboy, but the champion series cranking rods are the real deal! 765 or 805 would be perfect for you.

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I agree with the first 2 comments, you're looking at 2 different rods here. 

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I use a med-mod rod for most of my lipless and a medhvy-fast rod for deepdivers.

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^^What he said. Those are 2 very different baits and, personally, I wouldn't throw those baits on the same rod. For my traps I like my glass rod but for deep divers I like a firmer rod so I'm not working so hard. I couldn't imagine throwng a big billed bait on my glass rod. That's just me though.

 

What you are saying about deep divers does not make sense. Deep divers have a lot of resistance so the more bend in your rod, the easier it is to retrieve them. A firmer rod makes it so much tougher to fish those baits because of the resistance of the crankbait. What I am trying to say is you don't have to work as hard with a glass rod as you do with a non crankin rod for deep divers.

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What you are saying about deep divers does not make sense. Deep divers have a lot of resistance so the more bend in your rod, the easier it is to retrieve them. A firmer rod makes it so much tougher to fish those baits because of the resistance of the crankbait. What I am trying to say is you don't have to work as hard with a glass rod as you do with a non crankin rod for deep divers.

Wow; I find it the complete opposite. That would be like dragging a jig though grass and rock with a medium spinning rod.

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What you are saying about deep divers does not make sense. Deep divers have a lot of resistance so the more bend in your rod, the easier it is to retrieve them. A firmer rod makes it so much tougher to fish those baits because of the resistance of the crankbait. What I am trying to say is you don't have to work as hard with a glass rod as you do with a non crankin rod for deep divers.

 

 

Wow; I find it the complete opposite. That would be like dragging a jig though grass and rock with a medium spinning rod.

 

And That's what Freedom of Choice is All About.

 

If & when I can tolerate a technique and the fish ends up in the net - I'm good.

 

A-Jay

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Don't Know If Skie Can Afford Another Set-UP ,

 

Just Don't Forget , Not Everyone Can Afford Multiple Rods/ Reels  For There Fishing Needs ,  That Was Just My Thoughts On The 7'11 MH Crank Bait Rod. 

 

I Think Many Times Now , The Rod Companies Confuse People With So Many Different Rods , Crank Bait Rod , Spinner Bait Rod , Jerk Bait Rod , Etc.............

 

Mike

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7'11 MH Crank Bait Rod , Will Get The Job Done , 

 

Mike

 

 

Don't Know If Skie Can Afford Another Set-UP ,

 

Just Don't Forget , Not Everyone Can Afford Multiple Rods/ Reels  For There Fishing Needs ,  That was Just my Thoughts On The 7'11 MH Crank Bait Rod. 

 

I Think Many Times Now , The Rod Companies Confuse People With So Many Different Rods , Crank Bait Rod , Spinner Bait Rod , Jerk Bait Rod , Etc.............

 

Mike

Absolutely Mike. I should have worded my first post a little different. If I only had one rod to throw both of those baits on, a 7-11 MH Composite crankbait rod would be ideal. I guess I would err on the firmer side for the deep divers and you certainly can throw a trap on that rod as well.

:handshake-147:

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And to Opie, you can see, as AJay wisely stated above, many different thoughts here. I would recommend trying to find a buddy with each style of rod, ask to borrow and try for yourself.

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