Dogmatic Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 First real post, and the reason why I am here, to ask some questions. Has anyone tried these out? I started using spoons this late fall/winter for the first time, and to my surprise, I was pretty successful. I always think about "matching the hatch", one of the reasons I got into swimbaiting, and as a swimbait fisherman, I immediately started thinking "go big, or go home". So here it is, as "big" as it gets. Any thoughts, would you use them in the same situations that you were using smaller spoons, rigging, ect.??? Thx. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 13, 2015 Super User Posted February 13, 2015 $20 for a spoon? I can't seem to keep an $8 spoon away from the Rock Monster. I will have to become a better spoon fisherman before spending that kind of money on another tree ornament! 1 Quote
Dogmatic Posted February 13, 2015 Author Posted February 13, 2015 $20 for a spoon? I can't seem to keep an $8 spoon away from the Rock Monster. I will have to become a better spoon fisherman before spending that kind of money on another tree ornament! I know, and in its standard form, it's just a big hunk of sheet metal! But, (there's always a "but") I have invested a lot in lures and learned quickly that when you're an addict with a mean "monkey", the first investment should be a nice lure retriever! This thing is obviously catching fish too. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 13, 2015 Super User Posted February 13, 2015 $20 for a spoon? I can't seem to keep an $8 spoon away from the Rock Monster. I will have to become a better spoon fisherman before spending that kind of money on another tree ornament! Think Plug Knocker & with an extra long rope . . . . A-Jay Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 13, 2015 Super User Posted February 13, 2015 I have two I'm planning on using this summer in deeper water. I heard the early production had a problem with split rings but that they corrected them. The owner hooks they come with are super sharp. I think most of the hits are coming on the drop as they flutter down. Let's know how you do with them. I'll do the same when I get a chance to use them. 1 Quote
Dogmatic Posted February 13, 2015 Author Posted February 13, 2015 I have two I'm planning on using this summer in deeper water. I heard the early production had a problem with split rings but that they corrected them. The owner hooks they come with are super sharp. I think most of the hits are coming on the drop as they flutter down. Let's know how you do with them. I'll do the same when I get a chance to use them. Ok, I was told that jigging spoons were a good fall/winter cold water lure. I was thinking the exact opposite, height of summer when the surface temp is in the 80°+ and the fish have moved deep, sound like a plan? Quote
JGBassinAL Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Ok, I was told that jigging spoons were a good fall/winter cold water lure. I was thinking the exact opposite, height of summer when the surface temp is in the 80°+ and the fish have moved deep, sound like a plan? Exactly. Best used during the summer when the fish are bunched up on ledges. Prepare to be worn out throwing it. To me, it's one of those lures that you never get used to throwing because of it's weight and the action you have to use to work the bait. It killed on Pickwick this past summer! I would look into the Profound Outdoors spoon. It comes with better components (hook, split rings, etc.) and it's a whole dollar cheaper! Haha, it was $16 when it first came out and I bought them this past summer but looks like the price went up. From what I know most of the professional anglers use it over the Nichols spoon... Here's a link: https://www.profoundoutdoors.com/membertoolsdotnet/shoppingcartnew/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=22060&CatalogueID=208&PartyID=0&PartyGuestID=0&InternalUse=1&ProductGroupString=74.109 Quote
Dogmatic Posted February 13, 2015 Author Posted February 13, 2015 Thx! Any word on adding stinger hooks, guy from *' was just putting a 2/0 treble on the line before he tied on. I was thinking something more in line with a butterfly jig rig(attached directly to the split ring on top)? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 15, 2015 Global Moderator Posted February 15, 2015 I'd look up some of the Youtube videos about fishing one. I get tired just watching those guys fishing them! 1 Quote
basshole8190 Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 Not a technique for everyone. This spoon is big! 8" and 3.5 oz it'll wear you down. But it catches fish. Lots of them from dinks to bigguns! Make sure you've got the right equipment for throwing it! Quote
brooksward Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Exactly. Best used during the summer when the fish are bunched up on ledges. Prepare to be worn out throwing it. To me, it's one of those lures that you never get used to throwing because of it's weight and the action you have to use to work the bait. It killed on Pickwick this past summer! I would look into the Profound Outdoors spoon. It comes with better components (hook, split rings, etc.) and it's a whole dollar cheaper! Haha, it was $16 when it first came out and I bought them this past summer but looks like the price went up. From what I know most of the professional anglers use it over the Nichols spoon... Here's a link: https://www.profoundoutdoors.com/membertoolsdotnet/shoppingcartnew/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=22060&CatalogueID=208&PartyID=0&PartyGuestID=0&InternalUse=1&ProductGroupString=74.109 The Profound version is actually the exact same spoon as the Nichols, Nichols supplies it for them. Not sure how much longer they will have them, the same colors are up on Tackle Warehouse now under Nichols. Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 10, 2015 Author Posted April 10, 2015 I asked before, and maybe not the "recommended" season to ask again, but I keep missing fish, and was wondering how to improve on hook ups? (Jig assist hooks) Quote
IAY Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 I asked before, and maybe not the "recommended" season to ask again, but I keep missing fish, and was wondering how to improve on hook ups? (Jig assist hooks) The nature of magnum spoon makes it hard to hook the fish. Try adding a treble hook to the line, before you attach it to the spoon. The fish are likely to strike the head of the bait (knot end of the spoon) and the free swinging hook will make it difficult for fish to gain leverage to unhook them selves. You can also build this to attach to the front or back of the lure instead. http://fishingmania.org/column/hook/making-swimming-hook/. Its Japanese rig for jigging hooks, which makes it very difficult for the fish to throw the hooks off. Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 The nature of magnum spoon makes it hard to hook the fish. Try adding a treble hook to the line, before you attach it to the spoon. The fish are likely to strike the head of the bait (knot end of the spoon) and the free swinging hook will make it difficult for fish to gain leverage to unhook them selves. You can also build this to attach to the front or back of the lure instead. http://fishingmania.org/column/hook/making-swimming-hook/. Its Japanese rig for jigging hooks, which makes it very difficult for the fish to throw the hooks off. Thanks, definitely try the treble over the line, and the link looks like a very time consumingc way of building a jig assist hook like I use on butterfly jigs. Think I will try that too...let you know how it works out, because the ratio is really poor right now. Quote
Heron Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Not a technique for everyone. This spoon is big! 8" and 3.5 oz it'll wear you down. But it catches fish. Lots of them from dinks to bigguns! Make sure you've got the right equipment for throwing it! Holy cow. Thats not a spoon, thats a garden spade. Quote
MemphisFF Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Hey Dog I just bought 6 of these spoons after fishing with a buddy at Ky lake I saw these spoons in action over the summer.. What set up are using for this spoon? Rod specifically? Quote
basshole8190 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 I use an okuma guide select mh 7'6" rated from 1/2-5oz 1 Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 Hey Dog I just bought 6 of these spoons after fishing with a buddy at Ky lake I saw these spoons in action over the summer.. What set up are using for this spoon? Rod specifically? Like Basshole,an old swimbait set up, Mattlures(Reaction Strike) 7'7"(7'11") rated btwn 2oz-5oz w/Lexa 301, but the Okuma GS is a fine alternative. Quote
MemphisFF Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks I just got a lews heavy 7'6 that will do the job I think..one more question how bout line 20 lb Fluro ok? Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 17, 2015 Author Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks I just got a lews heavy 7'6 that will do the job I think..one more question how bout line 20 lb Fluro ok? Just so you know, I'm new to this also...but yeah, 20# fluoro is fine, I happen to use 25# CXX(but that's because that's what was on the reel) Quote
MemphisFF Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Just so you know, I'm new to this also...but yeah, 20# fluoro is fine, I happen to use 25# CXX(but that's because that's what was on the reel)Lol I guess we will figure it out.. Quote
basshole8190 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Fluoro isn't the best line for slack line hook sets. You may end up losing a few spoons if you're not careful Quote
basshole8190 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 That's what I use or a copoly in 20 lb Quote
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