RAMBLER Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I'm going to catch it in a body of water just a few miles from my house. Doug Hannon said that is a good place for one to be. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 I'm going to catch it in a body of water just a few miles from my house. Doug Hannon said that is a good place for one to be. Yup, outta a spring fed enviroment, maybe crystal springs? Idk... I know he believed that strongly in the 80's... But I don't think he felt that way before he passed... I'm a huge Hannon fan... Quote
hoosierhawghunter Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Falcon lake in Zapata texas, or el salto Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 I'm gonna catch it out of banks lake georiga Saturday. 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 27, 2014 Global Moderator Posted November 27, 2014 Biwa or another lake in Japan. The lakes in California would be a distant second. Possibly South Africa, seems to be some monster coming from there and I get the impression that those fish don't get nearly as much pressure as the California and Japanese lakes do. 1 Quote
reelnmn Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I really enjoy these conversations. With that said I disagree with a lot of the major opinions. #1 If a lake hasn't produced a catch of 15lbs then it can't produce a 20lb fish. Biologically this makes perfect sense as a bass must reach 15lbs before it reaches 20. However, that doesn't mean it will ever be caught at 15 or 16 or 17... The perfect example of this is Dixon. The unofficial top 25 listings shows a 21.69 (2003), 20.75 (2001), and 19.44 (2003). By this assumption there is no way a 25.1 bass could be caught in 2006 because we hadn't seen any 22s, 23s, or 24s. #2 No giant bass recently. Big bass hunters have gotten a lot smarter in the last 15 years. Anglers have witnessed California lakes receive huge amounts of pressure when a giant is publicly shared. The guys who religiously pursue the world record are not going to post a 19, and certainly not anything bigger in hopes of catching that same fish once she has reached "the" mark. If it's not THE fish a quick picture and back in the water without the world knowing. #3 I think we will see a new Spotted and Smallmouth Bass record in the next 10 years. I see the spot coming out of California and the Smallie coming somewhere very far away from the TVA or Great Lakes. Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 Keep in mind these giant bass live a maximum of 15 years. The Kurita WRB was caught in July 2009, Dottie was found dead in May of 2008. The big bass Kurita referenced are long gone and no bass over 19 lbs has been caught anywhere since 2009. The rumors that 30 lb LMB live in Cuba have never been authenticated, in fact nothing over 15 lbs has been actually weighed in Cuba, they eat the bass down there. No LMB over 19 lbs has ever been officially weighed in Mexico, again the locals eat what they catch, except Raul....and that could be another rumor! Tom The 19 lber which is Mexico's LMB record ( and LatinAmerican record ) was caught in Bacurato ( Baccarac ) but that was a long time ago, those saying or believing that a WR will come from mexican waters doesn't know abosultely anything about how mexican bass fisheries are managed or I should say mismanaged, biologically speaking, too warm, the fish will not live enough to reach 24 lb; also take in consideration that there's nobody doing periodical checks on what or how much people harvest we are infested with bucket fishermen. Good bass lakes ( yeah, 10+ lber lakes ) only last a few years, after maybe 6-8 years they are left with nothing. Quote
lectricbassman Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Is it possible that the wr lmb will never be broken? I dont know a lot about these big bass but it seems like a lot of variables have to be perfectly in place for these fish to even get that big, then it has to be caught. Im no al gore but it seems like its only going to get harder and harder for even the chance of a fish getting that big anymore. Theres my half empty glass, please tell me im wrong! Quote
CDMeyer Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Lake Falcon..... With people saying it had declined will drop the pressure, with in the next 10 years a record will come out of there and Falcon will take back #1 in the world Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 reelnmn #1 Dottie was 25.1#, I watched it weighed, she was foul hooked & by law cound not make the list. #2 Totally agree So by your admission just because we aint seeing 19+ lbs don't mean they aint being caught! Quote
reelnmn Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Catt that was my point. If Dottie had never been caught at 25.1 many people would have assumed Lake Dixon was 'capped' at roughly 22lbs. I personally believe Idaho has the potential to break the smallmouth record. Many people will say that is impossible because none have been caught over 10lbs. However, the smallie pressure on these few lakes that have that potential is nearly zero. I can go a week without seeing another bass fisherman. Just because a 10 has not been publicly caught does not mean that Idaho is 'capped' at our state record of 9lb 11oz. Also look at Pardee in Cali. Nothing over 10 yet but on its upswing it showed it could produce giants. Get the timing right with the increased angler awareness about negative impacts of social media and a record could easily be produced there. Chris Quote
benthinkin Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Wasn't the world record spotted bass broken this year? yes i heard about that too Quote
benthinkin Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 IMO it will be a small little lake in California that is regularly stocked with trout. I live close to where another "unofficial" record was caught at Spring lake in NORCAL. The lake is 72 acres and had a healthy population of bass, it was then drained and stocked with trout. Then given a little time and the genius of Paul Duclos a 24lber was pulled out of that little lake. ( http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/duclos.html ) Then comes along lake Dixon, basically a pond like spring filled with trout. It will not be a large pressured and well known lake. The fish will either never strike at anything artificial or be kept before it reaches a WR size. I am not a WR hunter. I am in contact with many people who do chase that dream, some of whom are very successful when it comes to catching trophy bass. They do not look at where big fish are being caught, they look at the DFG website for what lake are stocked with trout. When they go fish that lake they dropshot until they confirm that there is a population of bass. Then swimbaits and glidebaits are their weapons of choice. They will fish for days on end without a bite, yet they are not deterred. Given enough time they will produce trophy bass, given the conditions are correct. I have my eye on a few little lakes around my area that could possibly be the next Spring or Dixon, yet I do not have the skill to pull a WR out I am excited to see how it turns out, because the conditions at some of these lakes match that of Spring or Dixon to a "T". Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 Lake Falcon..... With people saying it had declined will drop the pressure, with in the next 10 years a record will come out of there and Falcon will take back #1 in the worldI seriously doubt it will be Falcon, again, too warm. Been there to many times, and the fish doesn't help either, not pure Florida strain LMB. Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 Ok reelnmn now we on the same page She is out there swimming around He is out there hunting her The two just aint met! Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 I heard they've (unofficially) caught 24 lbers there. That lake could definitely be a candidate for the next world-record. Although I think it'll probably be Japan or SoCal (L.A. or San Diego) idk. The local tilapia harvesters in that lake claim they have netted 24 pounders. That may not be true but there's some monsters roaming those waters. Quote
PersicoTrotaVA Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 It is hard to argue that Biwa has monsters in it. I really think that Socal can really have one in a lot of the different reservoirs. It would have to be a really good year with plenty of rain but I think that there are some 20lb+ fish, especially in San Diego county. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 I bet its love at first fight There, fixed that for ya...lol. Hootie 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 When lakes are low water pool during a drought the big bass are more vulnerable to being caught, our lakes are at near record low pools all throughout the state. There hasn't been any pure FLMB planted in CA since the late 80's, DVL would be the last lake planted, it's only done once. DVL was managed to produce a WR bass and topped out at 16.4 lbs in 2007, the reason is striped bass got into DVL via the aqueduct system that supplies water. The FLMB intergrates with NLMB already in the lakes and the pure strain gets mixed in time, that is where we are at today. Castaic has stripers, Casitas doesn't get trout plants, etc, etch. Mexico allows gill nets in their lakes, fish are food. Very difficult foe a WR to survive long enough to reach WR weight. The next WR may come from a CA lake that hasn't had much fishing pressure or possibly the massive delta area, lot of water that see very little fishing pressure, good climate and food base. Tom PS, the Dixon lake records are the same bass, Dottie caught 4 times and survived due to anglers that caught her, very rare bass. Quote
0119 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I hope it will never be broken but if it does I hope it doesnt come from Ca. or Japan. I'd prefer a more romantic story like a high mountain lake in Cuba or it falling for an old time hard lure on a forgotten river in Miss or Ala. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 When lakes are low water pool during a drought the big bass are more vulnerable to being caught, our lakes are at near record low pools all throughout the state. There hasn't been any pure FLMB planted in CA since the late 80's, DVL would be the last lake planted, it's only done once. DVL was managed to produce a WR bass and topped out at 16.4 lbs in 2007, the reason is striped bass got into DVL via the aqueduct system that supplies water. The FLMB intergrates with NLMB already in the lakes and the pure strain gets mixed in time, that is where we are at today. Castaic has stripers, Casitas doesn't get trout plants, etc, etch. Mexico allows gill nets in their lakes, fish are food. Very difficult foe a WR to survive long enough to reach WR weight. The next WR may come from a CA lake that hasn't had much fishing pressure or possibly the massive delta area, lot of water that see very little fishing pressure, good climate and food base. Tom PS, the Dixon lake records are the same bass, Dottie caught 4 times and survived due to anglers that caught her, very rare bass. WRB, I predict you will be the one to catch the next "World Record Bass"..... I mean, just look at those initials. Hootie Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 Can't complain, had my opportunities . Oldschool suites me better these days, not available on the BR site. Tom Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 27, 2014 Super User Posted November 27, 2014 When lakes are low water pool during a drought the big bass are more vulnerable to being caught, Absolutely right, as a matter of fact I plan and planned my big fish hunts for very specific time frames depending upon parameters like lake height above sea level, lake distance north and south of the Tropic of Cancer even what crops are planted in the irrigation district surrounding the lake ( so far there´s only one lake not subject to the crop parameter ) and the season, I say: in Mexico we don´t have "seasons" well, it´s not entirely true, we do have seasons: pre-spawn, spawn, post spawn and huntin; the pre-spawn, when fish are more vulnerable matches the lowest lake levels of the year and that takes place in the "spring".. Quote
BasshunterJGH Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 I just read an interesting article from 2003 on flw outdoors about a lady who caught a 22 1/2 lber out of spring lake ca. The article says the next WR will be worth "8 million dollars plus endorsements". Is that true? If so, that could definitely help with the cost of gear required to catch a WRB lol. Quote
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