TBO Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 spinning reel VS bait caster After owning a bait caster for a couple of years now. I still dont really see whats so special about the bait caster, yeah i can flip under docks but my ultra light with 20lb braid skips worms just fine under docks, yes i need to be a few feet further away from the dock but other than that i dont see the pro's of having a bait caster. so what is the pro"s of a bait caster over a spinning reel? is it just a matter of preference?? what do all of you use rods? bait caster or spinner Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted October 3, 2014 Super User Posted October 3, 2014 There is an application for both types that is why I carry several of each. I can't throw a weightless 4" worm with my bait casters and I have a heck of a time using 1 oz big bladed spinnerbait on my spinning stuff. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 3, 2014 Super User Posted October 3, 2014 This is a weekly topic....there's a ton of them if you look. They are different tools, with some overlap. I use both. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 3, 2014 Super User Posted October 3, 2014 I still dont really see whats so special about the bait caster, To answer the main question here.... Can you fish a heavy power rod, 25# copoly or 65# braid, with a reel that fits in the palm of your hand? Quote
TBO Posted October 3, 2014 Author Posted October 3, 2014 http://bit.ly/1sRfZ4M Here you go friend . thanks! so spinning gear is superior Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted October 3, 2014 Super User Posted October 3, 2014 http://bit.ly/1sRfZ4M Here you go friend . That is amazing... hahahahaha Pure Win... thanks! so spinning gear is superior uh no. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 3, 2014 Super User Posted October 3, 2014 thanks! so spinning gear is superior Maybe, for how you are fishing. That's the point - pick the tool that works best for the job. If you only push drywall screws into walls, then an impact driver probably isn't what you want. If you are building decks, then you can get away with a screw shooter, but a driver would be better. It's not like you're trying to drive screws with a hammer, or bang nails with channel locks - it's a little more subtle. Make sense? Quote
TBO Posted October 3, 2014 Author Posted October 3, 2014 Maybe, for how you are fishing. That's the point - pick the tool that works best for the job. If you only push drywall screws into walls, then an impact driver probably isn't what you want. If you are building decks, then you can get away with a screw shooter, but a driver would be better. It's not like you're trying to drive screws with a hammer, or bang nails with channel locks - it's a little more subtle. Make sense? sry was being a dbag, i googled and have tried researching this before i asked. maybe your right maybe i dont see a difference cause the way i fish.i dont throw cranks, or swim baits, or jigs.(until i found this new place this year.) I fish slop a lot and i use my ultra light 5'. i have a blast. i have pulled a 4lb out of slop with 6lb test.(i went to her) but i switched to 20lb braid and can yank them out of their. im just saying after having both types and fished both types i dont see a difference except for min. weight of lure to throw with a BC, but i always thought i could buy a different reel for the BC to allow me to throw lighter baits like weightless worms. my BC is a tourney special from bass pro. med. Perhaps i just fish to light for it Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 IMO being proficient with different types of tackle not only gives you more options, it enhances the overall fishing experience. Casting, spinning, fly, center pin, and even trolling have produced catches of bass and other species. 2 Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted October 3, 2014 Super User Posted October 3, 2014 I grew up using spinning reels and only a few years ago got into bait casters (I'm 48). I'm by far an expert with either, but I can say I almost exclusively use B/C now because I cast further and more accurately than using spinning gear. Bait casters also seem more sensitive too. I'll use spinning gear when it's really windy out or when using very light baits. Quote
mjseverson24 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Look at the guys who make a living fishing on the FLW and Elite series... Almost every single one of them uses both, but unless it is on a primarily smallmouth fishery and or the bite is really tough they typically will all be using casting equipment (except for A-Mart he will be using a dropshot)... These guys are subject matter experts, and while spinning gear can and will work for nearly every every presentation you can think of, it is optimized for a select few... I can probably break 80 using nothing but 7-iron - 60 deg wedge, but if I put the longer irons and woods back in the bag I will have the right club for any situation thus giving myself a better chance to succeed... ( its funny how golf and fishing have such similar concepts ) Mitch Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted October 4, 2014 Super User Posted October 4, 2014 Comparing them is like apples to oranges.both are healthy Quote
desmobob Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I grew up using spinning reels and only a few years ago got into bait casters (I'm 48). I'm by far an expert with either, but I can say I almost exclusively use B/C now because I cast further and more accurately than using spinning gear. Bait casters also seem more sensitive too. I'll use spinning gear when it's really windy out or when using very light baits. +1 (but I'm a little older) I started using my first good bait caster (Lew's TP and St. Croix Premier rod) this summer, along with a handful of spinning outfits. I can't wait to buy another good BC rig or two. Or three. Tight lines, Bob Quote
Super User Raul Posted October 4, 2014 Super User Posted October 4, 2014 spinning reel VS bait caster After owning a bait caster for a couple of years now. I still dont really see whats so special about the bait caster, yeah i can flip under docks but my ultra light with 20lb braid skips worms just fine under docks, yes i need to be a few feet further away from the dock but other than that i dont see the pro's of having a bait caster. so what is the pro"s of a bait caster over a spinning reel? is it just a matter of preference?? what do all of you use rods? bait caster or spinner It ends up being a matter of preference, 90% of the guys here would wish to have caught 1% of the fish Fish Chris has caught, all of them with spinning gear, Snook catches hard fighting big saltwater fish with spinning gear. I fish with one or the other, to me it's pretty much the same, one big advantage that spinning reels have for me is that I can cast to decent distances in places where, if I had bc gear, would have been practically impossible because it's not possible to swing the rod. Btw, you can Google Fish Chris and a big guy with a huge moustache holding a few eye whopping big mommas will appear. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 4, 2014 Super User Posted October 4, 2014 This size of fish (bass) you catch is completely irrelevant. Bass spinning gear is generally finesse oriented. Choosing casting or spinning has much more to do with the weight of the bait and line you are throwing as well as the cover you are throwing into. Casting gear is generally going to be much more powerful than spinning gear, saltwater gear aside. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 5, 2014 Super User Posted October 5, 2014 +1 (but I'm a little older) I started using my first good bait caster (Lew's TP and St. Croix Premier rod) this summer, along with a handful of spinning outfits. I can't wait to buy another good BC rig or two. Or three. Tight lines, Bob +2 (I'm probably older than you too, Bob. ) I just wanted to warn you that stopping at 3 is probably highly unlikely. I was new to baitcast reels in '09 (hence my display name). I did improve the quality of my spinning gear since '09, but they seldom get used. I like BC reels much better. I am a little leery of telling you how many reels I now have. Wouldn't want to scare you off. Raul has it right. OP, use what you like. Fishing for most of us is a fun hobby. Have fun. 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 5, 2014 Super User Posted October 5, 2014 I never bought into finesse with spinning gear and power with b/c gear, using nothing but spinning I use what ever type of lure and technique I choose to. I have no first hand experience as I don't own a b/c, but have read many times people throwing lighter baits with them. I do have experience with spinning gear, if I chose to use swimbaits or heavier jigs, I have rods that will handle them. Something I don't choose to do for bass fishing but I could. I don't think one lure delivery system is better than the other. I'm going to use the gear I get the most pleasure from, that fishes the best in the water conditions that I fish daily, for me it's always going to be spinning. Quote
masterbass Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 I fished with spinning gear exclusively up until 2 years ago and I used every technique with them just fine. Up north it seems like no one uses casting gear. Now I use %99 casting gear, but only because it is more enjoyable for me. I do think that I can cast more accurately with casting gear though, but in the end it is just a personal preference. Quote
Super User Further North Posted October 6, 2014 Super User Posted October 6, 2014 I never bought into finesse with spinning gear and power with b/c gear, using nothing but spinning I use what ever type of lure and technique I choose to. I have no first hand experience as I don't own a b/c, but have read many times people throwing lighter baits with them. I do have experience with spinning gear, if I chose to use swimbaits or heavier jigs, I have rods that will handle them. Something I don't choose to do for bass fishing but I could. I don't think one lure delivery system is better than the other. I'm going to use the gear I get the most pleasure from, that fishes the best in the water conditions that I fish daily, for me it's always going to be spinning. I used to use all spinning gear also, here's why I moved to baitcasters: Accuracy. I can control outgoing line speed much more easily with a baitcaster. I am much less likely to over-throw a shoreline into the woods with baitcasting reels. Distance. I can through my best baitcasters further than any of my spinning rods. Space. Baitcasters are much easier to store in my boat rod locker without creating a tangle of handles and reels. Retrieve speed. Many more options with baitcasters. Techniques like pitching that benefit from getting the bait back fast are one positive. I can always slow down a fast reel by cranking slower...I can't always speed up a slow reel. Lure size. This is a preference, but I prefer the way a baitcasting reel handles the heavier weights. I also find it easier to adjust drag if I need to, and having my cranking hand more closely aligned with the rod axis seems to help as well. I still have and use spinning gear (there's plenty of things it excels at (jigging for walleyes comes to mind; light weight lures like Rapalas and small Mepps also), but about 70% of my gear fishing is with baitcasting gear these days. I also throw flies a significant amount of the time (not itty-bitty trout flies...great big bass, pike and musky flies). I think being competent with different gear makes me a better fisherman and I'll use what works best on a given day with specific conditions...or what is most fun for me that day. Folks should use what they like and enjoy themselves. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 6, 2014 Super User Posted October 6, 2014 I used to use all spinning gear also, here's why I moved to baitcasters: Accuracy. I can control outgoing line speed much more easily with a baitcaster. I am much less likely to over-throw a shoreline into the woods with baitcasting reels. I don't hit the woods either Distance. I can through my best baitcasters further than any of my spinning rods. Don't need more than 40 yds in freshwater, most casts are way shorter. Space. Baitcasters are much easier to store in my boat rod locker without creating a tangle of handles and reels. Mostly fish from shore, when boating my rods are in the rod holders on the bimini top, they don't get stepped on. Retrieve speed. Many more options with baitcasters. Techniques like pitching that benefit from getting the bait back fast are one positive. I can always slow down a fast reel by cranking slower...I can't always speed up a slow reel. Curados are popular IPT 26-30", stradic 30# for the smallest size Lure size. This is a preference, but I prefer the way a baitcasting reel handles the heavier weights. The rod not the reel determines the lure weight that can be handled, med spinning my parameters are 1/4- 3/4, I go both lower and higher with no problem. I also find it easier to adjust drag if I need to, and having my cranking hand more closely aligned with the rod axis seems to help as well. Drag should be set and left for bass fishing, if more drag is needed palming the spinning spool is very easy, my power arm is always on the rod in case I have 30+ minute fight. I still have and use spinning gear (there's plenty of things it excels at (jigging for walleyes comes to mind; light weight lures like Rapalas and small Mepps also), but about 70% of my gear fishing is with baitcasting gear these days. I also throw flies a significant amount of the time (not itty-bitty trout flies...great big bass, pike and musky flies). I think being competent with different gear makes me a better fisherman and I'll use what works best on a given day with specific conditions...or what is most fun for me that day. Folks should use what they like and enjoy themselves. Exactly what I do ! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 6, 2014 Super User Posted October 6, 2014 1 and 2 are really subjective, and has more to do with developing your skills. If you learn how to feather a spinner, you'll have the same control you have with a caster. 3 depends on your storage system, though I always put spinners on the top. It's easy to get a caster around a spinner, but the opposite isn't as true. 4 is a misnomer - most spinning reels take up more line per turn than a batcaster. The spool circumference is larger, and therefore a lower gear ratio is used to achieve similar or greater IPT. 5 is dictated by rod ratings, though most spinners for bass stop at medium or MH. I know plenty of people using heavy inshore rods, 4000 series reels, and 50# braid to chuck frogs into heavy mats. It's a pretty swet setup, especially if you fish in heavy winds. Quote
RSM789 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I would hate to go out without both. When I first began fishing, I used spinning gear because that is what those who taught me (aunt & uncle) used to catch catfish & bluegill. As I started learning about bass fishing, it was intimated that real bass fishermen used baitcasting gear. Being a teen, I followed the peer pressure and used a pair of Diawa Millionaire setups almost exclusively (which worked out fine since I primarily threw crankbaits & topwater lures). As I got older, I realized it wasn't much fun trying to throw an 1/8" oz. Texas rigged 4" worm with my baitcasting gear, so I began using what worked best for each situation. Lighter lures and/or minimal cover, I'll use spinning gear, heavier lures or the need to drag fish out of cover equals baitcasting gear. It is much easier to be accurate with both setups as long as you educate your forefinger or thumb. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted October 8, 2014 Super User Posted October 8, 2014 Lotsa ppl including me use the phrase apples to oranges.the more i think about it its more like a 18 oz hammer compared to 20 oz hammer. Use what ya like i can use both with any lure.matter of nothing really Quote
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