Big Swimbait Discussion

[MIbassin]

Hey guys,

My recent purchase of an LDC XH rod and shimano curado has me in the mood to talk about big swimbaits!

Anyone with experience: it would be awesome if you could chime in and just share your thoughts or talk about anything related to big baits!

I don't really have a specific question, I just think it would be interesting to hear some of your guys thoughts!

[Raul]

Depends, swimbaits so far haven't caught the kind/size of fish I wish/hoped/assumed that I would catch with them, Fish Arrow Monster Jack has produced a lot of fish, the same thing with Imakatzu Husky Hazzuzy. I dunno, I still don't understand them, there's something I don't get, but I'll keep trying, there are some swimbaits that may work and I need to try in the places where my number 1 big bass bait works consistently.

[bmlum415]

Ummmm.... This is an obvious one but the slide swimmer 250 catches them every where I go has quickly become my go to big bait. The drawing power is ridiculous on that bait.

[SirSnookalot]

I don't really have the right kind of water here, but I'm to try one of my bigger saltwater lures in a bass pond.  The pond I have in mind I've been seeing 10-12 bass schooling that seem to be 20-25", don't know for sure how big until I catch one.

[MIbassin]

Ummmm.... This is an obvious one but the slide swimmer 250 catches them every where I go has quickly become my go to big bait. The drawing power is ridiculous on that bait.

I would love to get my hands on a 250

[hatrix]

Ummmm.... This is an obvious one but the slide swimmer 250 catches them every where I go has quickly become my go to big bait. The drawing power is ridiculous on that bait.

I have been saying that for a while now on here. It's not even just the Deps although it maybe the best big bait ever made. All of the good glides have magic power to draw fish from everywhere. I have been throwing glides like crazy this year and I fish a lot of clear water so it's that much better.

@Raul and this will apply to others as well who have not had the luck they thought. You need to buy the good stuff. There are baits that will get them for a decent price. But there is a reason the other baits cost $50+ I mean ever $100 is pretty ordinary. I read people posts say they ever had luck and were using some XXX bait. The difference is like say a LC jerk bait vs a whatever brand just think of it in a bigger scale.

You can pretty much buy any expensive bait and if you don't like it or whatever there will be someone in line to but it off you. It's a big market selling and buying swimbaits. It's puts adds people have for like a coupe packs or plastics and a few cranks to shame. People but them up non stop also. People post a 250 SS and say its 9/10 asking $220 shipped and its gone in a day. That is just a example.

[IAY]

I have been saying that for a while now on here. It's not even just the Deps although it maybe the best big bait ever made. All of the good glides have magic power to draw fish from everywhere. I have been throwing glides like crazy this year and I fish a lot of clear water so it's that much better.

@Raul and this will apply to others as well who have not had the luck they thought. You need to buy the good stuff. There are baits that will get them for a decent price. But there is a reason the other baits cost $50+ I mean ever $100 is pretty ordinary. I read people posts say they ever had luck and were using some XXX bait. The difference is like say a LC jerk bait vs a whatever brand just think of it in a bigger scale.

You can pretty much buy any expensive bait and if you don't like it or whatever there will be someone in line to but it off you. It's a big market selling and buying swimbaits. It's puts adds people have for like a coupe packs or plastics and a few cranks to shame. People but them up non stop also. People post a 250 SS and say its 9/10 asking $220 shipped and its gone in a day. That is just a example.

 

You do know that Husky Hussuzy from Imakatsu is a wooden bait costing 60 ish dollars right? And Raul is pretty avid lure collector.

[Raul]

Is not that I don´t catch nice fish with them, it´s just that they don´t catch the size of fish I wish/hoped/assumed that I would catch on them ........ perhaps I should be more specific, I wish/hope I could catch bigger than 10+ lbs with swimbaits, of course it´s a matter of perspective, I know that a huge bunch of guys would love to catch ( and for many it would be the fish of a lifetime ) the size of fish I catch with swimbaits I don´t say the don´t catch 6,7,8 lbers ( nice fish ! ), the situation here is that I´m not after that size, I want BEEG FEESH.

 

Also, I said that I still don´t understand big swimbaits, there are several elements in swimbait fishing that I don´t get: location ? depth ? speed ? retrieval technique ? some or several of those elements are not in the right place in the puzzle, and there´s something else, I´ve only tried with very few swimbait styles, practically I´ve tried only with "big crankbait like" swimbaits ( hell, man they catch fish like crazy but not the size I want, there is something about them that even the small fish think they are invited to the party ) I´ve looked now at other styles that may be more appropiate for the style of fishing that produces big mommas for me.

[J Francho]

You have to have a flat brim cap to use swimbaits.  Anything else lacks style.

[WRB]

To catch big bass on big swimbaits the bass should be feeding on big baitfish that are similar in profile and coloration to the big swimbait you are using. Lots bigs in that sentence and bigger isn't always better.

You can cast a BB Deps SS 250 for a week where I fish and catch nothing. 4 years ago in the same lake you would definitely had some strikes and seen a lot of big bass.....no trout plants anymore where I fish.

It's not always a big swimbait lure that gets results.

Tom

[5 Dollar Fishing Game]

Simple for me. I fish a big 12 acre pond often. Small to medium swim baits produce like fish. I've used 7 inch swimmies and have caught 6pound+ bass. There are always exceptions. But not often in my case. ;-)

[benthinkin]

I don't know if you have them where you are but Little creepers are the best swimbaits I have used. They are made in Clear lake, ca by some guys in a house. They are so good berkely tried to copy them, but without success. They have sizes from 4 or 6 inches, and maybe an 8 inch. Check them out.

[deep]

You need to know (figure out) when, where and how to fish them. Learn the habits and habitats of the big fish, and the prey they prefer during the different seasons. Studying Tom's posts here, and on TBH, would be a good start.

[MarkH024]

You need to know (figure out) when, where and how to fish them. Learn the habits and habitats of the big fish, and the prey they prefer during the different seasons. Studying Tom's posts here, and on TBH, would be a good start.

Nice to see you again Deep. 

[gulfcaptain]

Big swimbaits are just another tool in the fishing arsenal and have their time and place when they excel.  Like Tom said, there are times you can throw them and get lots of fish, then there are times you can throw them for the whole week and not see a follower.  When the fish are keying in on bigger offerings they do excel. But then there are times other baits will out produce in numbers and size.

[WRB]

You need to know (figure out) when, where and how to fish them. Learn the habits and habitats of the big fish, and the prey they prefer during the different seasons. Studying Tom's posts here, and on TBH, would be a good start.

Thank you for the feedback and your support.

Tom

[bigbill]

I have a inshore saltwater spinning setup and often I cast out the 9" castaic trout swim bait. She floats and stays just under the surface and swims like the real thing. I had to go to a 9' inshore saltwater spinning rod. It works.

[WRB]

I don't know if you have them where you are but Little creepers are the best swimbaits I have used. They are made in Clear lake, ca by some guys in a house. They are so good berkely tried to copy them, but without success. They have sizes from 4 or 6 inches, and maybe an 8 inch. Check them out.

Trash fish are excellent soft swimbaits, not big, the 8" model can't be considered a big swimbait although it fishes big! The big swimmers are over 10" up to 16". ATB Dirty Donkey swimbaits has a new 12" glider that looks good!

Tom

[SirSnookalot]

I have a inshore saltwater spinning setup and often I cast out the 9" castaic trout swim bait. She floats and stays just under the surface and swims like the real thing. I had to go to a 9' inshore saltwater spinning rod. It works.

There are spinning muskie rods that will handle lures that heavy that are shorter than 9'.

[ClackerBuzz]

here's a small 11 page conversation

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/143622-misconceptions-about-catching-big-bass/

[bstephenson1225]

I have done a search on the shell cracker G2 and can't really find anything on here about it. I was under the impression it would be a bass slayer. I had a hell of a time trying to find one in stock anywhere. Even the manufacturer had them on back order. I have tried fishing it but with no luck. I have been told the best time to use it was during the spawn. Is this correct? I know every time I throw it there's usually 3-5 bluegills swimming back by it's side.  

[ClackerBuzz]

some words of wisdom from Speedbead:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/144732-maybe-small-but-big-payoffs/page-2

[SPEEDBEAD.]

some words of wisdom from Speedbead:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/144732-maybe-small-but-big-payoffs/page-2

 

That guy doesn't know squat.