Tell Me About Fast Gears

[Catt]

What's so silly about it? I'd rather retrieve slower then retrieving faster all the time to compensate for a slower reel.

Working a bait isn't the only thing to worry about, bass charging you when hooked and reeling in the slack is too.

Dude it's the.same effort!

I've had 10# plus bass charge & 25# plus Bull Reds charge me...landed them all!

Losing big fish is seldom equiptment failure...it's usually opperator error!

If all ya got to out fish me is an 7.0:1 or 8.0:1 reel your the one at a disavantage!

[TorqueConverter]

Ultra fast retrieve reels are the trend now.  Everybody is going to have their own opinion on how these fast reels impact fishing and mine is that too many people are fishing baits too fast.  Average joe can't even make a scatter rap work because of he thinks he needs to burn crankbaits back to the boat on a ultra high speed reel.   

[OkobojiEagle]

Ultra fast retrieve reels are the trend now.  Everybody is going to have their own opinion on how these fast reels impact fishing and mine is that too many people are fishing baits too fast.  Average joe can't even make a scatter rap work because of he thinks he needs to burn crankbaits back to the boat on a ultra high speed reel.   

 

Man, you can fish in my boat any day you want!

 

 

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[Raul]

Ultra fast retrieve reels are the trend now.  Everybody is going to have their own opinion on how these fast reels impact fishing and mine is that too many people are fishing baits too fast.  Average joe can't even make a scatter rap work because of he thinks he needs to burn crankbaits back to the boat on a ultra high speed reel.   

 

I´m in the same channel as you are, I too think that too many people are fishing baits too fast and that they got caught on the trend that faster = better.

 

I learned that lesson more than 2 decades ago when I purchased the PT33SH, when you got a reel that can pick up to 33 IPT ( still more than many burner reels of today ) you get to know when you are reeling in too fast, it´s not me telling you, it´s the bait telling you that it´s being reeled in too fast.

 

There I was at the lake to break in my brand new PT33SH, tied a SK double willow 1/2 oz spinnerbait ( these type has the blades almost twice the size of your everyday spinnerbait ) and made a cast, started reeling in at the same pace I used with my XLT Plus Abus and .......what the ... ? it was like reeling in a bucket, I can take that, I eat spinach and I´m a strong man but what I can´t take is the spinnerbait rolling on it´s side and not running on a straight line; then it was the doublé Tenn. blade spinnerbait´s turn, the thing was being dragged so hard and so fast that it churned the surface like a buzzbait when hot rolling on it´s side; lipped cranks ? with most it was the same story, the cranks put a better fight than the fish I was trying to catch with them.

 

When I changed the same baits to setups with slower reels the baits worked fine, so it was not me, it was the reel´s speed, I wasn´t crazy, it were the baits telling me they just refused being dragged by that reel. I being a crank and spinnerbait fisherman put the reel aside for other purposes. I still have it and it´s still in use but it sees a lot less action than other reels I own, it does a nice job for worming and jigging.

[ec1]

The average angler with his high speed reel will get his lure back 6-10" ahead of me?

The average pitch is what 10-15 yards?

Yea y'all beating me bad!

 

An average angler with the faster speed reel means nothing. Let's put it in this perspective:

Someone that uses a 5:1 reel pitching a weedbed while holding the bait before each pitch vs someone with an 8:1 gear ratio and as soon as the bait comes out of the water it is pendulumed back out into the next spot. It might only be an extra pitch for every 15 pitches that the 8:1 angler makes, but an extra pitch is an extra pitch. 100% not discrediting your fishing there Catt!

And like Raul says, I do think that anglers as a whole nowadays fish too fast, always looking an instant bite. It will always be the ones that are capable of adapting and listening to the fish for the day that will catch more!

 

Ultra high dollar rods and reels only feels good to the user, and gear is never to be blamed on whether fish are caught or not. A good angler can use reliable gear and still beat your average joe using high end gear.

[Catt]

To me it's a sales gimmick the plays off the urge to run & gun!

At the end of the day it aint how many cast you made but where you made those cast.

[greentrout]

I was in a Gander Mountain the other day to check out their reels that were on sale. A nice young man who works for them started up a

conversation with me and told me the 7:1 gear ratio with 29 inches coming in per handle turn was an excellent reel for worm fishing.

 

Not for me, I have always believed to work the worm slow and sometimes do nothing and leave it in the bass' strike zone as long as

possible and the high speed reel paired with a long rod is not my style.

 

Old school basser...

[JDJ]

For worm and jig fishing, use the rod to move the bait at whatever pace you want. Use the higher speed reel to move the line (take up the slack quickly).

[WRB]

This year I bought 3 Tatula R 8:1.high speed reels. If you asked me a year ago what I thought about 8:1 high speed reels I would have said they don't fit my style of bass fishing. The Tatula spools are small diameter and narrow to appeal to today's generation of anglers, good reel for the $$.

Bought 1to try out, then bought 2 more because I like the 8:1.type R's. The reel actually fits my slow style of jig fishing because of the reel set technique I use when casting jigs 30-50 yards.

Tom

[greentrout]

For worm and jig fishing, use the rod to move the bait at whatever pace you want. Use the higher speed reel to move the line (take up the slack quickly).

For my style of fishing and the waters I now fish, I use a 6' medium and medium heavy rod so as not to over move the worm

with a 5:1 ratio reel and sometimes lower.

I have caught a few bass by s-l-o-w-l-y crawling the worm along on the bottom.

 

Old school basser...

 

[Montanaro]

Some misinformation in this thread