Super User iabass8 Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 Welcome to bass fishing.... 5 Quote
Super User Catt Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 Welcome to bass fishing.... X2! That's way it's called fishing & not catching 6 Quote
doyle8218 Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 X2! That's way it's called fishing & not catching Couldn't have said it any better.............Bravo. 2 Quote
einscodek Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Thats why new lures have a good chance to catch fish and sell I'm almost certain the major bait manufacturers already know this Quote
Super User bigbill Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 What works today might not work tomorrow. You ask why? What changed from the day before? Sunny or Cloudy? Warmer or Colder? The light conditions and the hues in the water can limit what colors the basses eyes can see. The ph can change and shut them right off. I usually fish everyday at the same spots. I throw a variety of different sizes, colors till I get action. I read the water conditions at the shoreline but as we go farther out and deeper the conditions can change. Again I throw all different colors. But on a slow bite remember firetiger can be your friend. Pick one that has a rattle, give it a shot of scent and cast it out. I admit I'm a color freak. Some days all colors will work. Other days one color only will work. Having a few different colors in your arsenal will do. A brown, a green, a red, firetiger, a firecraw(glo), a chartreuse, a silver, a black, a violet in crankbaits. Just start with a few shallow A bomber 05 cranks. For black or blue a rapala orginal minnow. These are examples. The biggest change I have noticed is year to year fishing the exact same places can be tough with the same lures and scents too. I was using my hottest crank from last year with a plain bass scent. I caught nothing. I changed colors and still nothing. I put on some garlic scent and I caught bass. I feel they learn our lures and the scent were using. We're like a baseball pitcher. We know the bass are there waiting for us to throw the correct bait with the correct presentation. I rotate my lures often too. I change to different styles and sizes/colors. Keep the fish guessing. One presentation I like when using a floating bait is to cast it out till the ripples disappear, pause it. Then I repeat it over and over. The bass are predators like a cat. Now with a toy the cat may jump on it right away. But it may take two or more passes to get it to strike. It's what mood there in. Fan cast the area and try different speeds and presentations till something works. Don't give up or get upset. I use the slow times to practice my presentations with each bait. I challenge myself to how many different presentations can I do with each different bait. A bass will interrupt us when we get it right. It's not luck in fishing it's skill. Bigbill Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 X2! That's way it's called fishing & not catching You beat me and 10,000 other people. Some days they are on and others days they're off, especially from shore where you can't cover as much water. Even on a good fishery like Lake St Clair, gonna be days when you'll get shutdown. 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 What works today might not work tomorrow. You ask why? What changed from the day before? Sunny or Cloudy? Warmer or Colder? The light conditions and the hues in the water can limit what colors the basses eyes can see. The ph can change and shut them right off. I usually fish everyday at the same spots. I throw a variety of different sizes, colors till I get action. I read the water conditions at the shoreline but as we go farther out and deeper the conditions can change. Again I throw all different colors. But on a slow bite remember firetiger can be your friend. Pick one that has a rattle, give it a shot of scent and cast it out. I admit I'm a color freak. Some days all colors will work. Other days one color only will work. Having a few different colors in your arsenal will do. A brown, a green, a red, firetiger, a firecraw(glo), a chartreuse, a silver, a black, a violet in crankbaits. Just start with a few shallow A bomber 05 cranks. For black or blue a rapala orginal minnow. These are examples. The biggest change I have noticed is year to year fishing the exact same places can be tough with the same lures and scents too. I was using my hottest crank from last year with a plain bass scent. I caught nothing. I changed colors and still nothing. I put on some garlic scent and I caught bass. I feel they learn our lures and the scent were using. We're like a baseball pitcher. We know the bass are there waiting for us to throw the correct bait with the correct presentation. I rotate my lures often too. I change to different styles and sizes/colors. Keep the fish guessing. One presentation I like when using a floating bait is to cast it out till the ripples disappear, pause it. Then I repeat it over and over. The bass are predators like a cat. Now with a toy the cat may jump on it right away. But it may take two or more passes to get it to strike. It's what mood there in. Fan cast the area and try different speeds and presentations till something works. Don't give up or get upset. I use the slow times to practice my presentations with each bait. I challenge myself to how many different presentations can I do with each different bait. A bass will interrupt us when we get it right. It's not luck in fishing it's skill. Bigbill Good post. Quote
Preytorien Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Most.....frustrating....thing.....ever..... I just keep thinking about a topic I once saw about us fishermen being "historical" fishermen. We approach water the next day the same way we did the day, time, or trip before. Fish move, water conditions change, weather changes, even the contour and structure of the bottom can change with current.....so it's not all that unheard of for lures to be good one day and then bomb the next. I guess we just have to adapt and try to anticipate what they'll want.....which is really the challenge of fishing. I know if I was a fish I'd take every lure in my box - I know I'll be thrown back and boy do those Seibert Jigs look delicious Quote
Super User Sam Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 By the day? How about by the hour? This is why you have to concentrate on the existing pattern and make adjustments as the patterns change. 2 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 More like one hour its producing and the next hour its not.... #bassfishingprobs 2 Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 By the day? How about by the hour? This is why you have to concentrate on the existing pattern and make adjustments as the patterns change. Exactly Sam, a day is too much time, I´m shure half of the time I fish I have to adapt by the hour. 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 By the day, hour and even minute. There are different ways to approach each one. Did the light conditions change? Did the water conditions change? Suppose when the bite shuts down for no reason I go into my attack mode to figure out what's going on. Did the bigger bass come closer to see what the smaller bass are feeding on? Simple just up size your bait. Did the light or water conditions change? Go to larger size brighter colored baits. It's all basic once we learn it. Don't get frustrated, stop and think about your next move. We're all still learning no matter how experienced we are. Bigbill Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted August 20, 2014 Super User Posted August 20, 2014 Yes ... I can't add anything else that hasn't already been said. Too many variables to factor in hour to hour let alone day to day. Quote
FirstnameLastname Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 I'm gonna hope Raul wasn't serious because if he was, I'm coming moving to Leon, Mexico. But one lure might not work ten minutes from now, not for most of day tomorrow, not at all the next day, and all day after that. Quote
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