Super User flyfisher Posted June 25, 2014 Super User Posted June 25, 2014 If the Torqueedo Ultra light for kayaks is any indication, those Deep Blues must be the cost of a new car, LOL.... yeah that is what i was thinking too. the torqueedo is pretty pricey for sure but it is still cheaper or the same cost as getting a pedal kayak....at least that is what i keep telling myself when i try and convince myself to get one for my commander Quote
Super User Darren. Posted June 25, 2014 Super User Posted June 25, 2014 yeah that is what i was thinking too. the torqueedo is pretty pricey for sure but it is still cheaper or the same cost as getting a pedal kayak....at least that is what i keep telling myself when i try and convince myself to get one for my commander Totally agree. But I've heard the torqueedo UL is very loud. I'd actually consider one before a Pro Angler, to be frank. Just because it's almost 1/2 the price. and only 17 pounds in total with battery. Dang. Kinda back to the OP, If I'm not mistaken, you cannot fish a kayak tourney with an electric motor, right? I've fished with a buddy who's paddle-only, and he can outrun me for periods of time (probably because I only have a 30 lb thrust). If i had a peddle yak, there's no way he'd outrun me. So in a tourney, it stands to reason that peddle yaks can get to prime spots faster than paddle yaks. But then, a 175 will get to a spot faster than a 125 in a gas boat tourney. Both are allowed. Glad I don't fish tourneys. I can outfit my yak to my pleasure and fish as I wish! 1 Quote
MidTNKayakAngler Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I had a Tarpon 160i for a while, and that's what I could propel faster than the Revolution. Granted I could not stand on the 160i, but that's not what it was made for. It had an ample tankwell, 2 flushmounts, rudder, and I had my Lowrance mounted on it. I could travel farther and faster than I could in the Revolution. In the Tarpon 160i I could maintain an average of 5.0-5.5 MPH GPS for great distances for me (4-5 miles) and hit 6.5-6.7mph top speed but cannot sustain that but for 100 yards or so. On the Revolution I can average 5.0-5.25 for the (4-5 miles) then my legs go jello, but can maintain 4.5-4.75mph for 7-8 miles. I was fishing a tournament last night and wanted to get to the river channel in my Ride 135 and I was hitting speeds of 4.75, but could only maintain an average of about 3.95mph and this is with me 220lbs, and approximately 125# of gear over a distance of 1.75 miles. Holding position forward and backward is doable in the Pro Angler, and other Hobies, not as easy as the Natives. In the Hobies, I pull the mirage drive and flip it around and you go in reverse. Flipping the drive around takes 2-3 seconds max. There is no perfect kayak and to cover all conditions thourally you will need multiple kayas as there is no perfect kayak. Like said there are many great manufacturers that are offering new features. I'm currently in a Ride 135, and I'm trying to see what all it can do and do well. It's ran some class 3's well, I can stand fairly easily and pitch from it. The only thing is speed, so that's where the mechanical drive kayak will come in. Not sure between the Slayer Propel, and Hobie Pro Angler, or maybe a Hobie Revolution like my wife's. What paddle kayak were you using when you toasted the fastest pedal drive boat and how long of a distance? And there is no way anyone can maintain the same speed paddling in a like boat for as long as you can in a pedal drive as the two muscle groups are not the same. you can use your legs a whole lot longer and without as much fatigue as your back and arms that you would use to paddle. I also noticed you mentioned holding position and the situations you mentioned are true if your kayak does not have the ability to go in reverse but with the propel drive you have that ability. All boats have their place and once you get into the sport a little bit more deeply, it is almost a given you will have multiple boats for varying conditions. I had 2 boats, one for rivers and one for flat water. Sold the river boat, gonna get another and most likely going to add a pedal drive (propel probably) to compliment my commander for flat water situations. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 25, 2014 Super User Posted June 25, 2014 I honestly can't see a boat like the Hobie Pro Angler existing without Mirage drive. To me, the drive system opens up new possibilities in hull design, and cockpit configuration. It's not all about speed. It's about efficiency and making the fishing experience better. 1 Quote
MidTNKayakAngler Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 I honestly can't see a boat like the Hobie Pro Angler existing without Mirage drive. To me, the drive system opens up new possibilities in hull design, and cockpit configuration. It's not all about speed. It's about efficiency and making the fishing experience better. I would agree with you. I tried paddling it, and it was no fun. Without the Mirage Drive it's a floating piece of plastic with a comfortable seat. There is a particular manufacturer that has recently came out with a kayak that is getting close to the dimensions of the Pro Angler. I have fished along side this new kayak in my Ride 135 which is not a fast kayak by any means, and it couldn't keep up even at a leisurely paddle. Like John said not very efficient, and would not be a great experience if you had to cover water. With the Mirage Drive on the Pro Angler it is a very efficient watercraft. Jeremy Quote
FrogFreak Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 One of the great things about yak fishing over fishing from my boat is that I don't have to worry about anything hanging down in the water and getting damaged. I love the advantage I have in super shallow and weedy waters. Yes, I'd love a peddle drive for getting to some spots but once I'm there, I'd probably just stow the peddle drive anyway. For me buying a yak meant keeping it simple. No motor, tm or other items to worry about. So I'll stick with the ole paddle. I've seriously thought about just selling my 2013 Crestliner VT17 lately. I just love yak fishing!! 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 11, 2014 Super User Posted July 11, 2014 Just spent the day in a Jackson Coosa. Had a ball with a 3 wt flyrod, chasing big blue gill. 1 Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted July 11, 2014 Super User Posted July 11, 2014 I say we regulate the living *&^$# out of everything-so much so that not only do we lose the intent or purpose of it but also the joy! Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted July 11, 2014 Super User Posted July 11, 2014 I say we regulate the living *&^$# out of everything-so much so that not only do we lose the intent or purpose of it but also the joy! Sorry if that seemed mean-spirited. I just have to work with the State of Illinois a lot and have had a belly full. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 11, 2014 Super User Posted July 11, 2014 Just spent the day in a Jackson Coosa. Had a ball with a 3 wt flyrod, chasing big blue gill. The coosa is a very nice fly fishing platform....i am regretting selling mine but i guess that means i need to get another one Quote
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