That's Photoshopped!!

[SirSnookalot]

By the way, you can get Photoshop Elements, which does everything you need to do to make that 2 pounder look like a 10, for as low as $60 if you get version 11. The new version, 12, is about $100.

The most common use I see for Photoshop on the web is where guys will use it to blur or cover up the location of where they caught their fish.

 This probably annoys me more than making a fish appear larger than it really it is.  If I catch a fish in private spot out of respect to the people that invited me I have to seal my lips.  Most of my fish are caught in public areas, I have directed people to locations for both freshwater and saltwater fishing, quite often without ever being asked.

 

I care so much about what fish weigh i dont even own a scale. I have a balance beam for tournament days and thats it. Ive seen big fish hit scales and come up three pounds. Size means nothing.

I don't carry scale either, don't care that much what the fish weighs, all that matters is the enjoyment I've had.  I will say if a scale is available I may have the fish weighed out of my own curiosity, but I don't post the exact weight.  

 

 

'WHO' Is Right is Not Important.....'WHAT' Is Right is All That Matters.  Spreading falsehood is never right.

What is right is always subject to an individual opinion.

[Fish_Whisperer]

 

What is right is always subject to an individual opinion.

 

Never knew anyone who was raised to believe that lying or deceit is ok, no matter how meaningless the subject may be.  

[*Hootie]

When you call someone out on what they say their fish weighed, what do you do.

Beat them up, have them arrested, or maybe file a lawsuit? A little off course here,

but now and then I'll here someone say. "I hate a liar". Isn't that self hatred?

Everyone has lied about something, NO, many things. And if you say you haven't,

you just told another one. If someone says their fish weighs 6#, and it's obvious that it

weighs more like 4#, so what, it's really none of my business, and I don't give a big

rat's ***. If your happy with your judgement call, I'm happy with you, and for you.

"Call someone out", what a STUPID statement!

 

Hootie

[Lund Explorer]

My thinking is in line with this ^^^.

 

I used to always think my fish were heavier than their actual weight, until I got a nice digital scale.  After using the scale for a while, I was able to get my senses and feel in line with reality.

 

Take yesterday morning for example, caught a nice bass near some guys catfishing.  They were calling 8 and 9 lbs, one said ten. I laughed at the ten. (If anyone knows me or have read my posts, they know I've yet to break double digits, and is my main goal)  I said "This fish might break 5."  I pull my scale out and it weighed 6lb, 3 oz. Made me feel good that even though I was a lb off, at least I wasn't embellishing the weight.  

 

So by your own admission you don't have the ability to judge the weight of a fish without the use of a scale.

 

Guess that rules you out from being able to judge other peoples fish!

[whitwolf]

Interesting subject! I guess I fall Into the camp with the folks that don't really care If the weight Is embellished. I don't know the reasons for said embellishment and In the end, like others, It doesn't have any sort of Impact on my life. 

 

I can respect Matt's and Shimmy's opinion on the matter and greatly appreciate having a place to come and share divergent views.   

 

I have seen a picture here and there on this site with the weight not close to what was said and I quickly click out of the thread because I know It will be a circus shortly thereafter. I mean no disrespect to anyone by that statement but I have been around long enough to know what I like and or want to read and what I don't.

 

I'll speak only for myself here and assure each and every one of you this opinion has nothing to do with what's been written on this thread. I have no Idea why people over-estimate the weight of their fish. It could be wanting a feeling of Importance, Inclusion, or they simply might over-estimate the weight on purpose to see some come absolutely unglued. In the end we can, the majority of the time, agree to disagree, and continue to make this the best site around. 

[starcraft1]

I guess I'm down there with the "I don't care" bunch.  What's that old saying, "Are all fishermen liars, or do only liars fish?" I guess my best is "Honey, I'll be back in by noon" her reply is "witch day?"

[Marty]

Photoshop costs about $700. 

With that kind of cabbage you can buy a St Croix Legend rod and Shimano Core reel.

At least say the photo was 'Gimped' (Gimp is open source).

Neither Photoshop nor Gimp can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

 

Roger

 

Photoshop Elements has fewer options than the original, but costs less than $100. It's extremely easy these days to be suspicious of photographs because of the many ways that they can be manipulated.

 

I'm interested in dragonflies and last week a guy posted a picture of one with an abnormal shade of blue. I was virtually positive it had been Photoshopped, but tried to be as tactful as possible and replied that for that particular species the blue looked different than the ones where I live. He came back and said he'd gone overboard with the color "enhancement."

 

The moral of the story is to keep it looking real when you manipulate an image.

 

Disclaimer: I never saw the picture that precipitated this thread.

[RoLo]

Photoshop Elements has fewer options than the original, but costs less than $100. 

 

Better yet, 'Gimp' is a superb knockoff of full-featured Photoshop, and it's freeware.

 

As a side-note: I have both programs: full-featured Photoshop & Gimp, yet I find myself using open source Gimp

more often than I use Photoshop. Download the 'high-pass' filter for sharpening and you've got the equivalent of Photoshop

with free updates and upgrades.

 

Roger

[Fish_Whisperer]

So by your own admission you don't have the ability to judge the weight of a fish without the use of a scale.

 

Guess that rules you out from being able to judge other peoples fish!

 

I said ridiculous weights.  Don't come to me with a 4 lb fish and claim its 12.

[A-Jay]

 

A-Jay

[Hi Salenity]

This is definately real.jpg

A-Jay

^^^ 100% Legit!!!

[*Hootie]

I said ridiculous weights. Don't come to me with a 4 lb fish and claim its 12.

Just wondering, if I came to you with a 12 lb and claimed it was 4 lb, would you be ok with that?

Hootie

[Lund Explorer]

I said ridiculous weights.  Don't come to me with a 4 lb fish and claim its 12.

 

Well, that's completely different!  Now I can see why it has ruined your life.

 

Did you see the one where the guy claimed a 10" fish weighed 10#?  At first I thought it was just a typo, like " instead of #.   Now I see that this liar was trying to be ridiculous.  To think that my wife left me and moved in with this faker.  The kids are all calling him daddy, and even my dog growls at me now.  My life is in SHAMBLES! 

 

When do we start to build the gallows? 

 

 

 

 

 

Note - All of the above is   

 

But of course the whole idea that someone with a slightly heavier thumb is harming anyone else is the really ridiculous part.

[Lund Explorer]

This is definately real.jpg

 

A-Jay

 

Nice fish.  I always knew those big four pounders were hiding out Up North! 

[Fish_Whisperer]

Just wondering, if I came to you with a 12 lb and claimed it was 4 lb, would you be ok with that?

Hootie

 

If you knew it was 12 lbs... I would not be ok with that.  I don't like being lied to.

 

Lund Explorer is getting a good laugh at the expense of my morals, that's fine.  Excuse me for being raised with such morals that some of you are finding preposterous.  

 

And btw Lund Explorer, as I typed in my first response to this thread, it annoys me when someone deliberately lies about a fish's weight, but it doesn't "ruin my life".  Drop the hammer; no need to build gallows.  Instead, find a tool to get your head out of your butt.

[*Hootie]

If you knew it was 12 lbs... I would not be ok with that.  I don't like being lied to.

 

 

 

So, I am assuming you have NEVER lied to anyone about anything. Be careful how you answer...lol.

 

Hootie

[Fish_Whisperer]

So, I am assuming you have NEVER lied to anyone about anything. Be careful how you answer...lol.

 

Hootie

 

Sure have.  Once maturing/ growing up, I have found no need to.  Dad taught me if you have to sneak to do something or lie about something, then it is most definately wrong.

 

Uh oh, guys, I stand corrected.  Bringing up dad got me thinking... He told me once that the only person you should ever lie to is your kids, and even then it is limited to two things.... Santa Claus, and the fact that you have sex with their mama.

[*Hootie]

We had a young man locally who said he caught a 7# + bass. People started disputing it. Just so happens his dad video taped the whole thing. The video shows the catch, the landing, and the weighing of the fish on a digital scale. So what happens next, you guessed it. People started disputing the accuracy of the scale. The truth isn't determined by whether or not someone else believes it. The truth is the truth. THE END. If you feel somehow threatened by someone else's success, you have some real issues to deal with.

Hootie

 

Signing off this topic.

[Lund Explorer]

If you knew it was 12 lbs... I would not be ok with that.  I don't like being lied to.

 

Lund Explorer is getting a good laugh at the expense of my morals, that's fine.  Excuse me for being raised with such morals that some of you are finding preposterous.  

 

And btw Lund Explorer, as I typed in my first response to this thread, it annoys me when someone deliberately lies about a fish's weight, but it doesn't "ruin my life".  Drop the hammer; no need to build gallows.  Instead, find a tool to get your head out of your butt.

 

Nope.  I getting a good laugh at the expense of your Faux Outrage!

 

I'll gladly shut up when you provide proof of the person who posted up the picture of a 4lb bass and claimed it to weigh 12lbs.  I'll leave this forum forever when you can prove that it caused any real harm to you or anyone else.  I figure I'm pretty well safe in that bet because I've raised a few teenagers that loved to play up the drama if their lives too.  I'm also pretty sure that you won't shut up or leave if you can't!

 

The simple truth is that the actions of another person doesn't do any harm to your morals, and I haven't seen any title you've been given to be in charge of anyone else's morals.  My pointing out these facts to you has tarnished it either.

 

FYI, I do own a 10lb hammer, but I guess you'll have to take my word for that one.

[Fish_Whisperer]

Nope.  I getting a good laugh at the expense of your Faux Outrage!

 

I'll gladly shut up when you provide proof of the person who posted up the picture of a 4lb bass and claimed it to weigh 12lbs.  I'll leave this forum forever when you can prove that it caused any real harm to you or anyone else.  I figure I'm pretty well safe in that bet because I've raised a few teenagers that loved to play up the drama if their lives too.  I'm also pretty sure that you won't shut up or leave if you can't!

 

The simple truth is that the actions of another person doesn't do any harm to your morals, and I haven't seen any title you've been given to be in charge of anyone else's morals.  My pointing out these facts to you has tarnished it either.

 

FYI, I do own a 10lb hammer, but I guess you'll have to take my word for that one.

Nowhere in this thread have I said that someone posted a 4 lb bass and claimed it was 12lbs.  Nowhere in this thread have I said that lying about weight causes harm to me, my morals or anyone else.  Read my posts again.  

 

At best, lying about a fish's weight annoys me, but as I wrote in a previous post, it doesn't ruin my life, nor do I lose sleep over it.  I suppose we shall agree to disagree.  It's 4:25 AM, I got some rigging to do, and some fishing.

[SirSnookalot]

 

 

SirSnookalot, on 07 Jun 2014 - 02:30, said:

 

What is right is always subject to an individual opinion.

 

Never knew anyone who was raised to believe that lying or deceit is ok, no matter how meaningless the subject may be.  

 I said being right is subject to opinion, case in point is how to fish a certain bait.  There may be a host of opinions, none are more right than another.  What this has to do with being deceitful is beyond me.  

[*Hootie]

I said being right is subject to opinion, case in point is how to fish a certain bait. There may be a host of opinions, none are more right than another. What this has to do with being deceitful is beyond me.

VERY excellent point.

I know, I said I was signing off this topic....I LIED!...lol.

Hootie

[Sam]

Because big bass are few and far between and some guys have never had the pleasure of fighting and landing a monster bass.

 

So it is easier to say the photo has been amended than it is to admit that another guy nailed the bass of a lifetime.

[Sam]

And one more point: the guys on fishing shows catch a pound and a half bass and say it is three pounds.

 

Those guys always increase the size of the bass they catch.

 

I know because I am the king of catching dinks and pound and a halfers!!!!

[Mattlures]

Funny how the I don't care club is ok with being lied to but not ok with calling a liar, a liar. A very liberal attitude. If somebody weighed the fish and its on video then those guys who called him out might just be jelous. I was once called out online after I was on a great bite and showed multiple pics of big bass. He said I photoshopped the pictures. I went out the next day and caught a couple more and took pics and video. The guy that called me out apologized. There is right and wrong and there is giving somebody the benefit of the doubt. If your obviously lying you should be called out. If your estimation is reasonable then people should let it go. There is a real simple solution to all this. If you catch a fish or take a great picture and the fish looks extra big, don't claim a weight if your going to lie about it. If your going to say the weight be truthful. Instead of lying just show the pic and say look at my fish. Let other people think the fish is a certain weight.