BuckMaxx Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 I love to parrell rip rap for smalleys with a jerk bait. I use 10 lb mono on a medium spinning rod. I have to check and retie my knot quite a bit. I have also lost quite a few fish and expensive jerks. I have switched all my jerks over to #5 oval but it still usually breaks where the line wraps around the split ring. I may try to upsize to a #6 but I think I also need a new knot with double line thru the eye. Not sure what that not is called. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 7, 2014 Super User Posted May 7, 2014 I use the san diego jam for mono/fluoro. You may need to get more abrasion resistant mono Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 7, 2014 Super User Posted May 7, 2014 I use a palomar knot, I haven't had any problems with it. Quote
David D. Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 I also have been using a palomar without any problems. Quote
Super User MCS Posted May 7, 2014 Super User Posted May 7, 2014 Most time I remove the split ring(if it has one) and use a rapala knot. Otherwise palomar, sometimes I will use a norman speed clip with palomar instead of a split ring too. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 8, 2014 Super User Posted May 8, 2014 Loopknot and leader for all hard lures, no exception. I use the lure right out of the box, don't remove a split ring or add one. I may lose a lure due to a snag or cutoff, a fish just ain't gonna break that knot. I'd be checking the drag on the spinning reel. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted May 8, 2014 Super User Posted May 8, 2014 16-20 also known as the Pitzen or Duncan Knot: Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 8, 2014 Global Moderator Posted May 8, 2014 I use a Norman speed clip on any bait with a split ring..tied with the SDJ. You mentioned you wanted a knot with a doubled knot through the eye.... The one's I've used is... Palomar (but that's for braid exclusively) Fishin Fool (It's just a doubled Uni) Doubled SDJ No Name...It's a doubled SDJ without going through the loop by the eye first. Trilene Knot... There may be more but these are the ones I've used. Mike Quote
0119 Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I always take the split ring off and always use a loop knot. 1 Quote
Zach Dunham Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I've always used a Palomar knot with jerkbaits and I haven't lost a jerkbait in 3 years. That was using 10-12 lb fluoro and recently copolymer. Quote
ColdSVT Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Anothe palomar knot fan! If they can hold up to a tarpon they hold up to bass anyday Ive caught 130 plus lb tarpon on 50lb braid tied to a 30lb flouro leaver via an albright knot with a palomar as my terminal knot more than a few times! Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 9, 2014 Super User Posted May 9, 2014 I might be missing something, maybe bass are bigger, more powerful, make longer harder runs than salt water fish, hence the need for all these super dooper knots. From a guy who fishes saltwater about 340 days a year both on my own as well as with a guide and charter, just about everyone uses a loopknot for lures. Clinch or an improved clinch for terminal tackle and the bimini knot has been replaced by the alberto, which is faster and easier and just as strong. What's a saltwater fisherman really know anyway..........lol. Quote
ColdSVT Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Sirsnook My buddy and i uses to argue between the palomar and loop knot when we tarpin fished...i always tied a palomar and he always tied a loop knot...we never did figure out the bettet knot but we did straighten some circle hooks! God i miss tarpon fishin...and beach snook! Quote
doyle8218 Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 No split ring - Norman Speed Clip - Palomar knot. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 9, 2014 Super User Posted May 9, 2014 Sirsnook My buddy and i uses to argue between the palomar and loop knot when we tarpin fished...i always tied a palomar and he always tied a loop knot...we never did figure out the bettet knot but we did straighten some circle hooks! God i miss tarpon fishin...and beach snook! Both knots serve a different purpose, palomar good for hooks, swivels, jig heads, I prefer an ordinary clinch. Loopknot for lures, I keep it simple. Another thing I don't have to log is which knot I used for what bait, it's always the same for me. 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted May 10, 2014 Super User Posted May 10, 2014 Simple solution to your problem of the knot breaking at the split ring is to use a snap. You can leave the split ring on or remove it as you wish. Your problem is probably not the knot but the wear from contacting the split ring at the wire split. 2 Quote
Super User South FLA Posted May 10, 2014 Super User Posted May 10, 2014 Simple solution to your problem of the knot breaking at the split ring is to use a snap. You can leave the split ring on or remove it as you wish. Your problem is probably not the knot but the wear from contacting the split ring at the wire split. I agree, but I always give Dwight grief about the snaps (I call it a Yankee technique, LOL). When tying knot unto split ring be aware so that knot secures over the double wire on the opposite side of the split-ring start. 1 Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted May 10, 2014 Super User Posted May 10, 2014 I agree with Dwight. I remove all split rings on any hardbait I have and use a snap instead. Have never had an issue. Quote
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