Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted October 6, 2013 Super User Posted October 6, 2013 Any knots you guys tie that doesn't waste a lot of line for reties. i like a little room to work with my knots so my tag end are about 3 inches are so...maybe a knot where it slips down to the eyelets to save line? Quote
Brian Needham Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 3 in tag line? I never get one that short. I like room to work. Gotta pay to play I guess. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted October 6, 2013 Super User Posted October 6, 2013 I use san diego jam knot with fluoro and usually have a minimal tag end. I don't think there are any knots that have no tag end. Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted October 6, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 6, 2013 3 in tag line? I never get one that short. I like room to work. Gotta pay to play I guess. ohk maybe alittle more like 6... i the shaw g knot on my fluro but i go through so much line its crazy and that's just on my jig rod Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted October 6, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 6, 2013 i check that knot out i just need something to save more than what im dong now Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted October 6, 2013 Super User Posted October 6, 2013 I use san diego jam knot with fluoro and usually have a minimal tag end. I don't think there are any knots that have no tag end. x2. super strong knot and the tag end is very minimal when you get the hang it tying it correctly. Quote
ChrisAW Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 If you get good at it, you can tie Shaw's knot with minimal line usage. 6" of doubled line or 12" overall, maybe a little less, is all I use generally without a problem. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 6, 2013 Super User Posted October 6, 2013 ohk maybe alittle more like 6... i the shaw g knot on my fluro but i go through so much line its crazy and that's just on my jig rod It's probably the strongest knot for fluoro I've found. I just live with it. Unless your retying constantly with new lures, the knot should last awhile. I've got 2-3 trips on the same knot. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 6, 2013 Global Moderator Posted October 6, 2013 x2. super strong knot and the tag end is very minimal when you get the hang it tying it correctly. I use san diego jam knot with fluoro and usually have a minimal tag end. I don't think there are any knots that have no tag end. x2. super strong knot and the tag end is very minimal when you get the hang it tying it correctly. Agree... It's like a lot of things, the more you start out with, the more you'll end up with... Been useing the SDJ for everything but braid. Very strong and easy to tie. Mike Quote
Diggy Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 I use the trilene knot, you can limit the tag end wasting very easily. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 ohk maybe alittle more like 6... i the shaw g knot on my fluro but i go through so much line its crazy and that's just on my jig rod Have you tried Pitzen knot? Shw g knot is double version of this knot. Depending on how many wrap you do, you might save some line. Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted October 7, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 7, 2013 well i like the shaw g knot its quick easy and very strong. Im targeting big bass with jigs dragging them over rock piles and stuff like that.. so every time I catch a fish or there's a nick in my line I re-tie.. ill check out the pitzen knot and the SD knot.. hows the strength of these knots compared to shaws ? Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 well i like the shaw g knot its quick easy and very strong. Im targeting big bass with jigs dragging them over rock piles and stuff like that.. so every time I catch a fish or there's a nick in my line I re-tie.. ill check out the pitzen knot and the SD knot.. hows the strength of these knots compared to shaws ? My personal 'very limited' test, Shaw G > Pitzen > SD Jam. But they were pretty close I though. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 FWIW, I've been using the single uni knot for FC lately. Especially since reading this: http://www.bassmaster.com/tips/tackle-aaron-martens Has been fantastic on weedless hooks and such -- but I tie a snell when I've got a free shank. 2 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 Before retying you should examine your line to see if the end has to be trimmed back. If I happen to go thru a bit more line than expected it's just part of fishing. I don't think having a short tag end is an important issue, it's only line. I approach lures the same way, never fish with one I don't expect to lose, it's gonna happen. I do not get overly protective of line, using a leader may eliminate some of the waste. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 FWIW, I've been using the single uni knot for FC lately. Especially since reading this: http://www.bassmaster.com/tips/tackle-aaron-martens Has been fantastic on weedless hooks and such -- but I tie a snell when I've got a free shank. Through eye twice uni knot is what I use braid fluro. Knot Wars went head to head this knot and palomar, uni won. Too the tag end can be minimal just enough tho pinch/hold with fingers 1/2"-1" or so. Aaron Martens quote : "Some guys might consider this chapter to be controversial. I don't want to be controversial, but, at the same time, it's important to tell the truth. And, the truth is the uni knot and the Snell are much better than the popular Palomar knot for strength and durability, especially when you're fishing with braid or fluorocarbon." 2 Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 wow, people are seriously concerned about wasting a little bit of line on the tag end of their knots now? smh 1 Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted October 7, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 7, 2013 wow, people are seriously concerned about wasting a little bit of line on the tag end of their knots now? smh how much is your line bud? yeah im concerned i don't have money to just throw out , but hey if you do ill give you my mailing address and ill be glad to take it... Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 Best flourocarbon knot is the flourocarbon not... Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 When I tie an improved clinch for spinnerbaits and buzzbaits knot there's no trimming involved - I end up with a 1/4" to 1/2 " tag, which actually helps keep junk from catching on the knot. Uni knots for jigs and worm hooks leave a couple inches, and I trim them almost flush to the knot. Palomars and Alberto connections leave the most. Not much you can do about it. Quote
Brian Needham Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Red Earth has a point......I use Tatsu which is not cheap. I tie the improved clinch all the time. I have longer tag ends most times. Big Whoop. I tie perfect knots and thats what I am concerned with.... not the foot or 2 +/- it takes to tie a knot. sometimes you got to pay to play to get perfection......BUT it is nothing to argue about IMO Quote
ChrisAW Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 · Hidden by Long Mike, October 8, 2013 - Confrontational Hidden by Long Mike, October 8, 2013 - Confrontational Red Earth has a point......I use Tatsu which is not cheap. I tie the improved clinch all the time. I have longer tag ends most times. Big Whoop. I tie perfect knots and thats what I am concerned with.... not the foot or 2 +/- it takes to tie a knot. sometimes you got to pay to play to get perfection......BUT it is nothing to argue about IMO Ok, so feel free not to make a post in a topic asking what knot wastes the least line. There was no arguement, just suggestions, until you and Red Earth came in telling the guy he shouldn't worry about it. 1
Jolly Green Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 I worked at tying the Trilene and Pitzen knots with only an inch of tag because I'm cheap like that. But I will cut and retie in a heartbeat if I don't turn out a good clean knot because I'm obsessive like that. I'd rather lose a few inches of line than a nice fish. Quote
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