Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 9, 2013 Global Moderator Posted May 9, 2013 Getting back to the question... After bringing the lure through the loop, pull both ends to consolidate the knot. Pull the mainline to snug the knot to the lure. Pull tag end only to tighten, which would leave very little waste. Cut tag end to preferrence. Mike Quote
ColdSVT Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Exactly. Thinner diameter lines let lures run deeper than thicker lines. The resistance of the water pushes up on the line keeping the bait from going deeper. Go from 12 pound test to 10 pound line (mono or fluoro) and your bait will run up to about 1 foot deeper on average. Braided line being so much thinner, has less resistance so baits run even deeper. If braid were as buoyant as a bobber, your baits would not be able to dive. But braid just barely floats. It takes very little to get it to sink. It is not much more buoyant than Fluoro which does sink but it is not so heavy that it will drag down a floating bait. Most of the crankbaits you use float, but they will still dive down deep. i'll buy that for a buck Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted May 10, 2013 Super User Posted May 10, 2013 Palomar is the single knot that I absolutely detest. Everyone recommends it, however it is one of the very worst with fluorocarbon. The Pitzen is the best, and the single Uni is a good knot as well. Many, many pros won't use the Palomar any more. Marten, KVD, Evers, they all use other knots because of the inherent weakness of the Palomar. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted May 10, 2013 Super User Posted May 10, 2013 If braid were as buoyant as a bobber, your baits would not be able to dive. But braid just barely floats. It takes very little to get it to sink. It is not much more buoyant than Fluoro which does sink but it is not so heavy that it will drag down a floating bait. Most of the crankbaits you use float, but they will still dive down deep.Braid is extremely buoyant, as the material it is made of is 100% hydrophobic. It takes a large amount to get it to sink, in comparison to its volume. You're 100% incorrect about fluorocarbon not dragging down on a top water bait. Try fishing a 1/4 ounce Yellow Magic with fluorocarbon and the popper doesn't work because the line is pulling the bait down at an odd angle. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted May 10, 2013 Super User Posted May 10, 2013 Braid does not hinder maximum depth, if anything it helps acheive greater depth.Wrong on multiple levels. Braid hinders depth because of its very, very high drag. It hinders depth because of very high flotation that causes bellying- which in turn increases drag. 1 Quote
PondBoss Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Sorry but you're wrong on that. 10lb braid has a much much smaller diameter than 10lb mono or fluorocarbon. The lack of diameter more than makes up for what little flotation the braid provides. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted May 10, 2013 Super User Posted May 10, 2013 In theory, yes. But it is hydrophobic and as a result has much greater drag because of the flotation. Physics don't lie. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted May 11, 2013 Super User Posted May 11, 2013 Wrong on multiple levels. Braid hinders depth because of its very, very high drag. It hinders depth because of very high flotation that causes bellying- which in turn increases drag. I'm still looking for some reference material that discuss' drag and fishing line. Where do I find this information that you have found? Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted May 11, 2013 Super User Posted May 11, 2013 Wrong on multiple levels. Braid hinders depth because of its very, very high drag. It hinders depth because of very high flotation that causes bellying- which in turn increases drag. Well I must live in an alternate universe than you.........FACT is I get crankbaits deeper on 20lb braid than I do with 10 or 12lb fluorocarbon. I can take the same bait, used on the same rod, in the same locations/depths and hit the bottom with 20lb braid in less time, and on a shorter cast than I can with fluorocarbon used on the same set up. On a long cast with braid, the bait will still out-dive the same bait tied on fluoro, but the gap is closer because of the "bow" in the line. I get a lot more hooks into fish on the end of a long cast with braid too. BUT I will say this, EQUAL diameters of braid vs. fluoro...............the fluoro wins. I CAN NOT, get cranks as deep with 50lb braid (12lb diameter) as I can with 12lb fluoro. Which is why I use 20lb (6 lb dia.) braid. They will get deeper on that line than 10 or 12 lb fluoro. Quote
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