Sorry bout not getting back, I trimmed a couple of the jigs, but for the most part I like a longer skirt. The guy that made them doesn't market these jigs, he makes them during the winter months when he's not out fishing himself. I met him through another friend in Illinois and was able to talk him out of some. He's an old timer, sort of a local legend around where he lives and is known for turning a lot of kids on to fishing. He's kind of hard to talk to sometimes if he doesn't know you but if you get him talking about getting envolved with kids he warms up to you. His wife is a lot easier to get to know. Anyway, his name is Bill and his number is (PM for Number). It's easier to get ahold of him on Saturdays afternoons and he goes to bed early. He pours his own jigs and uses wide gap hooks which I really like. I gave him six bucks each for his trouble and IMO they're worth it. I've paid 5-6 bucks for store bought jigs that are not half the jigs these are.