Super User South FLA Posted September 22, 2011 Super User Posted September 22, 2011 Tournament anglers did well this past weekend on a bunch of different patterns, I need to get out there soon. http://www.americanbassanglers.com/BWS/newsdetails.php?news_id=593 Quote
evrgladesbasser Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Tournament anglers did well this past weekend on a bunch of different patterns, I need to get out there soon. http://www.americanbassanglers.com/BWS/newsdetails.php?news_id=593 Very encouraging news. The lake sits at 10.97 right now. I don't get comfortable til 12'. Maybe next month... Quote
Super User South FLA Posted September 23, 2011 Author Super User Posted September 23, 2011 It's 3 feet lower than last year! I just don't understand how we have high levels above and below the lake, yet it's below regular levels! Can someone please explain to me why? Quote
Shane Procell Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Its gonna be another low water season in the glades, unless we can get a good tropical storm or hurricane. Quote
gar-tracker Posted September 24, 2011 Posted September 24, 2011 I really don't know why they allow tournament anglers to fish those pumps, it should be off limits past the weir. The lakes low because they have had the gates open all summer, its insane, the dry season is knocking at the door and the lake will soon be dropping again, look for a low winter. Unless we get a tropical storm between now and Nov. I went out the Saturday and Sunday they fished, I had 14lbs the first day and 23 the second day. I never heard of this trail is it the Bassmasters version of BFL? Quote
salmicropterus Posted September 24, 2011 Posted September 24, 2011 It's 3 feet lower than last year! I just don't understand how we have high levels above and below the lake, yet it's below regular levels! Can someone please explain to me why? And, if you can explain this, please also explain why the Corps dumped 2' of water out last fall and winter after the rainy season was over Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted September 24, 2011 Super User Posted September 24, 2011 I'd be real happy not having a hurricane. Quote
evrgladesbasser Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 And, if you can explain this, please also explain why the Corps dumped 2' of water out last fall and winter after the rainy season was over Hate to sound cliche', but it's all about the $$$$$$. Farmers have more say on how the lake is treated than fisherman. We don't donate enough money to the right people at election time 1 Quote
salmicropterus Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 Hate to sound cliche', but it's all about the $$$$$$. Farmers have more say on how the lake is treated than fisherman. We don't donate enough money to the right people at election time I hear ya and it's true what you say, but my understanding of that release program last fall was that the water simply went out to sea down the Caloosahatchie. This was after maintaining a 14-15.5 level throughout the entire rainy/storm season. The phrase the Corps uses was "for flood control" purposes, but on examination that makes no sense. Why maintain a higher level during the storm season when the risk is the highest, then draw down afterword? Simple logic would dictate you let the dry season bring the lake down naturally, then you tweak it down in March-May if you think it's too high going into the storm season. I know there are proponents of the big drawdowns for the Lake's benefit, but absent a soaker, the Lake will barely noodge above 11 and definitely not make 12 this rainy season and if we have another dry winter, it's easy to see it in the 8's next May. Quote
evrgladesbasser Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 I hear ya and it's true what you say, but my understanding of that release program last fall was that the water simply went out to sea down the Caloosahatchie. This was after maintaining a 14-15.5 level throughout the entire rainy/storm season. The phrase the Corps uses was "for flood control" purposes, but on examination that makes no sense. Why maintain a higher level during the storm season when the risk is the highest, then draw down afterword? Simple logic would dictate you let the dry season bring the lake down naturally, then you tweak it down in March-May if you think it's too high going into the storm season. I know there are proponents of the big drawdowns for the Lake's benefit, but absent a soaker, the Lake will barely noodge above 11 and definitely not make 12 this rainy season and if we have another dry winter, it's easy to see it in the 8's next May. Yes they have used excuses ranging from "flood control" to "the dams can't handle the high water" to "we are expecting a lot of rain". Simple logic doesn't apply here. The sugarcane farmers will get the water they need. If the lake gets below 10.5ft, they fire up the pumps and feed the water to them since gavity itself is not enough at that point. And when it's all said and done, the sugarcane (and other) farmers receive credit for helping clean-up the water in the everglades (they say the farm lands filter the water as it heads south). I get it.... but I just don't get it. Quote
salmicropterus Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Yes they have used excuses ranging from "flood control" to "the dams can't handle the high water" to "we are expecting a lot of rain". Simple logic doesn't apply here. The sugarcane farmers will get the water they need. If the lake gets below 10.5ft, they fire up the pumps and feed the water to them since gavity itself is not enough at that point. And when it's all said and done, the sugarcane (and other) farmers receive credit for helping clean-up the water in the everglades (they say the farm lands filter the water as it heads south). I get it.... but I just don't get it. True that!. I have prodded some writers from the Sun-Sentinel and Herald to ask the questions I am asking. They come close but don't quite do it. Makes me think money is working somewhere. Surprised? No. Disapointed? Yes Quote
Super User South FLA Posted September 26, 2011 Author Super User Posted September 26, 2011 Since we all know that the lake level is going to be disastrously low come late Winter, I wonder if FWC or SFWMD can be prodded to actually do something constructive like muck removal projects, burning off of thick vegetation and tilling flats , especially around Horse Island area, planting native aquatics, dredging/clearing of trails, etc. while the lake is low enough to work on it? I doubt it though budget cuts Quote
GLADES Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 Hate to sound cliche', but it's all about the $$$$$$. Farmers have more say on how the lake is treated than fisherman. We don't donate enough money to the right people at election time I agree. That is the real story behind the water shortage. Plus, those St Augustine sod farms need the drought and once a week water restrictions to burn up the lawns...it's good for business. Quote
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